Bender

People Turn More Liberal With Age | LiveScience

So the myth has been debunked, a myth probably created by a conservative.

Seeings how we we have a new wave of liberals in the younger generations, if this scenario of seniors turning more liberal holds true, the conservative movement in our world, will hopefully one day (god willing), be a thing of ancient history.
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ImWithStupid

This is only because in the last 30 years, more and more of the population is getting closer to retirement age, and want the government to take care of them, because they failed to plan for retirement.

They banked on Social Security.

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wez

Welcome to the liberal party...


Last time I said that to someone, I was in a week long fight for my account.

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ImWithStupid

Is this the point where I'm supposed to get offended and start the personal attacks?

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wez

Only those who know me knew I meant it as a personal attack.. a damn serious one too. This is where you ask me what's so bad about being called liberal after validating benders right to phreak out on me for the next week for not really calling him a liberal.

Right, eddo?

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Seriously though. I really doubt that I will ever be swayed enough to be considered a liberal. In my opinion most of what liberals are about either flies in the face of the founding fathers or abuses the common sense vagueness that they left in the plans for our nation.

Take these quotes from Ben Franklin and compare it to todays liberal ideals of wanting to give handouts and subsidies to everyone or take from the "haves" and hand it to the "have nots".

Sounds like Ben wasn't a liberal either and definitely wouldn't like what either Hillary or Obama have planned.

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wez

Honestly, I find these labels useless as I think everyone has their views on each specific issue. We're all individuals, not labels. I do find myself siding with human life rather than currency in most situations. If that makes me a liberal, so be it. But personal responsibility comes first and foremost.. and don't believe in coddling stupidity. Make a mistake, learn from it. Not rocket science.

Plus, I think the label has changed drastically from what it was for the founding fathers.. It used to mean individual freedom first and foremost.. Not pinko communism.. Conservative has lost it's identity too it seems. Just words for people to choose sides and divide while both parties give us the shaft in much the same way..

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ImWithStupid

I don't know how much liberals and conservatives have lost their identity. I think that true liberals and true conservatives are still just that. The people who have lost their identity are the political parties. The standard idea that Dems are liberals and especially the idea that Repubs are conservatives, have lost any correlation.

I do agree with you that whether it's a Dem or Repub, they don't care about the people they are supposed to represent. All they do, is work for the next election, while accomplishing little, if anything, for the people, in between.

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wez

From commipedia..


Classical liberalism (also known as traditional liberalism[1] and laissez-faire liberalism,[2] or, in much of the world, simply called liberalism) is a doctrine stressing individual freedom and limited government. This includes the importance of human rationality, individual property rights, natural rights, the protection of civil liberties, constitutional limitations of government, free markets, and individual freedom from restraint as exemplified in the writings of Adam Smith, John Stuart Mill,[3] Montesquieu, Voltaire,[4] Thomas Paine and others. As such, it is seen as the fusion of economic liberalism with political liberalism.[2] The "normative core" of classical liberalism is the idea that laissez-faire economics will bring about a spontaneous order or invisible hand that benefits the society,[5] though it does not necessarily oppose the state's provision of a few basic public goods.[6]

The qualification classical was applied in retrospect to distinguish early nineteenth-century liberalism from evolutions in liberal thought during the 19th and early 20th centuries, especially the "new liberalism" associated with Thomas Hill Green, Leonard Trelawny Hobhouse,[7] and Franklin D. Roosevelt,[8] which grants the state a more interventionist role in the economy, including a welfare state. Classical liberalism is not to be confused with the ideology that is commonly called "liberalism" today in the United States, as "classical liberalism" is actually closer to being a tendency of "conservatism" in the U.S.[9]


Seems someone has been playing my favorite game. Role reversal.

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ImWithStupid

I see your point.

I guess I was referring to the labels in a more recent past view. Like the last century.

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If you rob Peter to pay Paul, you can always rely on Paul's vote. ~ Democrat strategy