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Old 09-12-2009, 04:37 AM   #11
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Re: Taking politics personally...

Most Americans are too damn ignorant to discuss the issues we face. They must rely on attacking the individuals they are debating to substitute for their lack of knowledge. Whenever you see in debate someone constantly using "you're" (the ignoramouses often mispell it "your") you know you are dealing with an ignorant individual. Best to just put them on ignore.
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Old 09-12-2009, 04:47 AM   #12
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Re: Taking politics personally...

The debate is never civil, because it gets distorted with outright lies, deceptions, and misinformation. Not to mention the name calling.

I have all my friends on facebook too. One of the reason I have actually been ignoring THIS particular forum even, as of late, is that we have idiots here (no names mentioned), who would rather distort truth from fact, and resort to the tired labeling of our President (Nazi, commie, socialist, Marxist, Muslim, Kenyan, ACORN, etc, etc...). Who are these Republicans I can have a civil debate with? My past classmates for one. In Nebraska, but mainly the ones in Iowa (I don't debate with the ones I don't personally know). They know damn well spewing those stupid outrageous accusations on their own wall is gonna make them look like idiots to their friends, family & classmates who have them on their friends list. And they ALL agree it's disrespectful to the office of the President of the United States to put those petty labels on him like that just because you might disagree with him. Maybe it's just that my Republican class mates have a little more class. Or perhaps you can't say we are hiding behind our keyboards talking smack because we all know each other.

I actually get a BETTER debate out of the ones who by-pass that stupidity, and more things from a Republican perspective I can agree with, then I get from the media whore lunatics who parrot every damn thing they hear into the forum & blog world.
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Old 09-12-2009, 04:56 AM   #13
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Re: Taking politics personally...

I blame a lot of the lack of civil discourse on talk radio. There was a time when books by economists made the best seller list. I suggest reading the Keynesian, John Kenneth Galbraith's, The Affluent Society, and the neo-classisist, Milton Friedman's, Capitalism and Freedom. not only will you learn about the two competing ideologies that have shaped debate in the post WWII era, but you will find great examples in civil discourse.
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Old 09-12-2009, 10:41 AM   #14
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Re: Taking politics personally...

I personally have been seeing more and more validity to the Kondratiev, long wave theory on economics. The biggest problem with this theory is there is too much wiggle room and this makes it hard to prove or disprove. I think if Kondratiev is correct it would also support Milton Friedman as it doesn't matter what we do, capitalism goes through the same cycle, so government interference should be minimal.
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Old 09-12-2009, 02:54 PM   #15
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I personally have been seeing more and more validity to the Kondratiev, long wave theory on economics. The biggest problem with this theory is there is too much wiggle room and this makes it hard to prove or disprove. I think if Kondratiev is correct it would also support Milton Friedman as it doesn't matter what we do, capitalism goes through the same cycle, so government interference should be minimal.
If the government does have a role it should use built in automatic stabilizers; i.e when the unemployment rate goes up unemployment benefits increase. This takes the politics out of it. There will always be a business cycle.
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Re: Taking politics personally...

I'm not proud of some of the things I commit to post.

I feel that I can broach a topic with a little more tact and, grant it, sometimes I do. A lot of the times I don't. That's the venom in my veins, though!

Yet I don't think I speak from an uninformed view, I mean I do take in all sides before I run off at the mouth (well fingers). And I don't think I speak from a narrow or one-sided viewpoint, either. I mean, the scrutinizing mind will believe what it wants.

I don't Twitter, I don't do Facebook or MySpace, and I have little patience negotiating the keypad on my fukken phone! With the exception of JustBS, and WPYO previously, I don't use the Internet for much other than news and sports (and porn!).

With that said, I hope some of you will tell me when I am being totally unreasonable. I don't want JustBS to go the way of WPYO before it was shut down.
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Old 09-12-2009, 05:33 PM   #17
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Re: Taking politics personally...

Ain't nothing wrong with venting occasionally.
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Re: Taking politics personally...

I've never found your views to be insulting, out of line, not well thought out, or fail to make sense. I may not always agree with them, but it's obvious you've done your homework, RO.
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I've never found your views to be insulting, out of line, not well thought out, or fail to make sense. I may not always agree with them, but it's obvious you've done your homework, RO.
The only reason she don't agree with our comments all the time is because she is a damn loony commie.
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Old 09-12-2009, 07:29 PM   #20
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yep. that's me!

Oh... by the way, hugo... I spanked you a few minutes ago. LOL tsk! tsk! you should know better.

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