Bender

At least the teabaggers are starting to be a bit more honest.


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RoyalOrleans

Blah blah blah boring as the Acorn crap.

They fell on deaf ears.

I hate the Patriot Act. Loathe it. Of all Bush's fukk-ups, this is the grandmother of them all.

Still, I can't put blame squarely on Bush. We've been on a steady infringement of our basic rights since FDR.

Again, we can look back to FDR's New Deal and the sludge-filled downward spiral to our current President''s New Deal.

Who got the tax cuts?

I've read it and can't find a damn bit of good for the future of our economy in the proposal.

I can opine all day long about it, but you can interpret them as lies. Believe what you want, Bender, but get ready for a big fat "I told you so.".

I love gloating.


Typical response.

Have you not read the bill yet?

Proponents of socialist healthcare here in the US virtually never cite any of the realities of any of the existing "socialist" systems, be it one in Canada, Sweden, France, Germany, Japan, Taiwan, etc. Their system is always based on some non-existent, utopian system where all the treatments and outcomes will of course be "fair and equal".

How can that possibly happen when by its very nature all services under such a system will have to be rationed? Its just common sense that any service, if its perceived to be free, is going to be exploited.


Where did you get that statistic?

Yet we have government hacks who probably would have a tough time making it in the private sector are going to be telling business owners and managers what they can and what they cannot do in the operations of their businesses.

The definition of Fascism is a political philosophy, movement, or regime that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, SEVERE ECONOMIC AND SOCIAL REGIMENTATION, and forcible suppression of the opposition.

Typical Bender. Would rather shrug it off than face the music.

It is all killing me, because it is my money. Fukk Medicare and fukk Social Security... which are perfect examples of how the government takes a terrible idea and perverts it, bankrupts it, and then blames the other guy.

Never mind the fact that I can come off as boorish and evasive, but I can't get around the fact that "more lies" constitutes debate.

Yeah... that would've left them quivering in the wake. (rollseyes)

In spite of Clinton's "budget surplus", which refers to one column on the spreadsheet, the national debt grew under Clinton to nearly $6 trillion. You can look it up on the US Treasury website. Most people don't know what is referred to when politicians talk about the "budget surplus."


Ohhh.... no! I have not forgotten the pork from the Republicans side of the aisle, either. And don't think for a second that I vote party lines just because I don't agree with you on every matter.

If my statements scare you, perhaps you shouldn't answer them? TJ called you out on this list of mine, but I wasn't expecting a warm welcome.

BAM! Yep... you told me.

Ohh... it's the old "I know you are but what am I" axiom, is it?

Can you name any Republican in that last thirty years that wasn't a crook in some form or another?

I can't either.

Thus, I am just as happy to point out the rogue's gallery of appointees made by Obama as I am any other president.

Name a President and I'm sure you can dig up some dirt on each one of their appointments.

It would matter if you'd pay attention.

Better to be ass-reamed by an investment that I made, despite advice not to proceed with said investment, than by the almighty Federal government who can do it with force. Gusto!

By the way.... ee no longer have a "Federal" government. We have a CENTRAL government, a tyrannical government, a FACIST government, call it what you like, but it is no longer in any way federal.

Again, preaching to the choir.

Advocates for the minimum wage increases love to use this phrase "the working poor." I'm sorry, folks but nobody in their right mind should expect for you to raise a family earning minimum wage. If you do, you are a low-life. You are a failure. "The working poor" is just a fancy way of masking that reality.

Would you please elaborate, and to ad nauseum because I truly want to know, what it is I lied about. What it is I distorted? What it is I am fearmongering?

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I had to giggle at Bender's reply, instead of dodging every point one way, he did it many ways and never actually answered a single point in an honest way.


You told the truth, and they just can't face the truth.

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Bender

So then where are these rights the black man took away that everyone is screaming about?


YOU did. On April 1st. Easy to forget isn't it?
Until it is so, it is fear mongering... fear of the black man


Yes I have, point out the governemnt control, what page, what section? I must have missed that somewhere after "IF YOU LIKE YOUR INSURANCE, KEEP IT."


In other words, more fear mongering for something that doesn't exist. If I wanted rationing I merely need to turn to insurance companies. Show of hands of the number of people who have health care that only allows them to go to certain Dr's.

My uncle, who drives semi, gets his insurance from his employer. His wife recently needed some stones removed. He had to go to the next town over to have it done. If that ain't rationing, I don't know what is.






Nothing to face, but I'm glad the ACORN conspiracy keeps you ammused and gives you something to talk about.



So where did you come up with the 70% number? Hell, you could go half that, and it's still inaccurate.


Ahh hell with the rest of this. It's all frikken lies, and distortions, nothing to substantiate anything but fear mongering.
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RoyalOrleans

Geezzz...

I know I am in great company when I am accused of fear-mongering because my opinion differs from theirs.

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I am Ripper... Tearer... Slasher... Gouger. I am the Teeth in the Darkness, the Talons in the Night. Mine is Strength... and Lust... and Power! I AM BEOWULF! '

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Bender

Not fear mongering? 70% taxes, rationing, government takeover?

Get real man.

I thought we were supposed to have that rationing and government takeover and all that other shiit when Clinton was in office. What happened to it?

Same damn fear mongering, different President.
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Bender

Oh, and I'm still waiting for that transition into Islam like was foretold as well.

emkay64

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RoyalOrleans

What happened to it?

It was all voted down. HillaryCare?

Yes, I agree same damn fearmongering. Welcome back, Carter.

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I am Ripper... Tearer... Slasher... Gouger. I am the Teeth in the Darkness, the Talons in the Night. Mine is Strength... and Lust... and Power! I AM BEOWULF! '

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RoyalOrleans

Now you're just spitting out brag and abuse without even considering the shortfalls.

Your average idiot may buy into that bunk, but I don't believe he was that influenced by the religion of his father. He just carries the name, that's all.

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I am Ripper... Tearer... Slasher... Gouger. I am the Teeth in the Darkness, the Talons in the Night. Mine is Strength... and Lust... and Power! I AM BEOWULF! '

Big Gay TJ's Big Gay Sex Dream (link)