New Rules On Conduct

timesjoke

Progressive Killer
#21
Re: New Rule On Conduct

ImWithStupid said:
No member(s) were personally attacked. I have no idea, for sure, if any members belong to any particular party, or any party at all. I myself am registered Republican (but considering changing to indipendant) but don't consider myself as a part of the Republican Party.

Unless we have a member named "Democratic Party" and I meant to attack that particular member, by calling him/her a socialist, it isn't relevant. Also my opinion that much of the Democratic Party has socialist ideals, is just that. My opinion.

I was also talking about the people here in Nebraska that turned out for the
Democratic Caucus and voted. I don't think that applies to any member on this forum. At least not to my knowledge.

Nice try and I guess your attempts to justify your attack on all democrats is a kind of answer though. You see everything you do as justified, so you feel your above the rules your telling everyone else to follow.


This is why I don't let my mods moderate and post in the threads at the same time, you cannot see past your own opinions to be objective.


Clearly your attack on all democrats was just that, an attack. We clearly have people who are democrats on the board and your comment could easily offend them.


But, as I pointed out earlier, even though it can be "seen" as an attack, it was still on topic, and should be allowed, the only problem is it is not allowed by the new rule you made.


If you used the rule I offered, or made a similar one, this would solve the problem because it makes a distinction between spirited debate and hostile actions that ruin discussions.


I am just trying to help you have the result your looking for, don't turn your back on a great idea just because you don't like me.
 

wez

Big Time BS
#22
Re: New Rule On Conduct

timesjoke said:
Nice try and I guess your attempts to justify your attack on all democrats is a kind of answer though. You see everything you do as justified, so you feel your above the rules your telling everyone else to follow.

That would be you TJ, not IWS.


timesjoke said:
This is why I don't let my mods moderate and post in the threads at the same time, you cannot see past your own opinions to be objective.
Do you chain them to the wall at night?


timesjoke said:
Clearly your attack on all democrats was just that, an attack. We clearly have people who are democrats on the board and your comment could easily offend them.
Their problem.


timesjoke said:
But, as I pointed out earlier, even though it can be "seen" as an attack, it was still on topic, and should be allowed, the only problem is it is not allowed by the new rule you made.
It is allowed... I thought you once told me that free speech doesn't apply on a private forum? I think IWS and the admins can do whatever they want.


timesjoke said:
If you used the rule I offered, or made a similar one, this would solve the problem because it makes a distinction between spirited debate and hostile actions that ruin discussions.
No offense, but your idea sucked..


timesjoke said:
I am just trying to help you have the result your looking for, don't turn your back on a great idea just because you don't like me.

Or the result you're looking for? I don't speak for IWS but I think he's made it quite clear he doesn't have a personal problem with you.. It's the opposite..


"I'm rubber, you're glue, whatever you say bounces off me and sticks to you". ~ Some smartass kid.. (Keyword being "smart"). :D


I'll get you to laugh one of these days TJ... ;)
 

timesjoke

Progressive Killer
#23
Re: New Rule On Conduct

wez said:
That would be you TJ, not IWS.
And this comment is helpful how?

Pleast stop being an instigator Wez.


IWS is the only one here both making personal attacks and also "claiming" he wants to stop personal attacks. He is both the rule setter, and in this case, the rule breaker.



wez said:
Do you chain them to the wall at night?
What exactly is your motivation for comments of this nature Wez?

Clearly this in intended as discussion stopping attacks, not to help.

This is why there is a difference between what I define as type one attacks and type two.

Here we see a type two attack, gentle looking to be sure, but it's only motivation is to demean and belittle someone, and is the most harmful thing you can ever have on a forum because this nasty attitude spreads and perpetuates itself.



wez said:
Their problem.
The same can be said about anyone who gets offended for any reason. They make a choice to be offended.

We are talking about the concept of making personal attacks, not if the target of the attack is offended.


You attack people all the time, it is your only true debate skill, most of us don't really get offended by your nasty attitude but at the same time, your attacks still exist.



wez said:
It is allowed... I thought you once told me that free speech doesn't apply on a private forum? I think IWS and the admins can do whatever they want.
Well, clearly it is allowed for him, but under the new rule he just posted, the rest of us would be violating the rule if we said something similar, and this was my point.

I was directly addressing a double standard if IWS feels his personal attacks are okay just because he is a mod and is above the rules he is telling the rest of us to follow.



wez said:
No offense, but your idea sucked..
Why?

Just because it directly addresses well poisioning guys like you who spend most of their time making the type 2 attacks?

My guideline removes guys like you because it is capable of making a distinction between people interested in spirited debate and those like you just out to stir up trouble and get attention.




wez said:
Or the result you're looking for? I don't speak for IWS but I think he's made it quite clear he doesn't have a personal problem with you.. It's the opposite..
His actions do not match up to his virbal claims of not having a problem with me. I don't care if he does not like me to be honest though, all I care about is reasonable execution of his moderating powers. So far he is not very equal, but I know this is based in him trying to both debate and moderate at the same time.


Even cloaked agreed that moderating and debating at the same time is not a good idea. You cannot maintain objectivity if your down in the trenches.

wez said:
"I'm rubber, you're glue, whatever you say bounces off me and sticks to you". ~ Some smartass kid.. (Keyword being "smart"). :D


I'll get you to laugh one of these days TJ... ;)
I laugh all the time Wez, but you just make me shake my head in dissapointment.

As I keep saying, you have great ideas, but you wrap them in garbage making it impossible to take you seriously sometimes.


Take this post you just made for example.

Most of it is obviously designed to take shots at me and that motivation is my point. If your motivation is to take shots at me, your most likely doing the wrong thing.
 

snafu

Big Time BS'er
#24
Re: New Rule On Conduct

timesjoke said:
Nice try and I guess your attempts to justify your attack on all democrats is a kind of answer though. You see everything you do as justified, so you feel your above the rules your telling everyone else to follow.


This is why I don't let my mods moderate and post in the threads at the same time, you cannot see past your own opinions to be objective.


Clearly your attack on all democrats was just that, an attack. We clearly have people who are democrats on the board and your comment could easily offend them.


But, as I pointed out earlier, even though it can be "seen" as an attack, it was still on topic, and should be allowed, the only problem is it is not allowed by the new rule you made.


If you used the rule I offered, or made a similar one, this would solve the problem because it makes a distinction between spirited debate and hostile actions that ruin discussions.


I am just trying to help you have the result your looking for, don't turn your back on a great idea just because you don't like me.
Look TJ don't be so petty. He's talking about personal attacks. The same ones you, eddo, wez and Brothreman were doing, the bickering back and forth. It's pretty obvious what IWS is saying.
 

timesjoke

Progressive Killer
#25
Re: New Rule On Conduct

snafu said:
Look TJ don't be so petty. He's talking about personal attacks. The same ones you, eddo, wez and Brothreman were doing, the bickering back and forth. It's pretty obvious what IWS is saying.
I know what he is "trying" to say, but that is not what the new rule covers.


That is why I gave an example of the rules from my forum to try and help this forum create rules that actually deal with the specific problem of converstaion ending attacks but can allow spirited debates.


I am not being petty, I am looking at how the new rule leaves more questions than answers and changes nothing when even the rule poster is breaking the rule 5 minutes after he posted it.
 
#26
Re: New Rule On Conduct

wez said:
That would be you TJ, not IWS.




Do you chain them to the wall at night?




Their problem.




It is allowed... I thought you once told me that free speech doesn't apply on a private forum? I think IWS and the admins can do whatever they want.




No offense, but your idea sucked..





Or the result you're looking for? I don't speak for IWS but I think he's made it quite clear he doesn't have a personal problem with you.. It's the opposite..


"I'm rubber, you're glue, whatever you say bounces off me and sticks to you". ~ Some smartass kid.. (Keyword being "smart"). :D


I'll get you to laugh one of these days TJ... ;)

I would like to complain about this post. I would like to see an apology. This looks like nothing but personal attacks by wez.
 

eddo

I don't like you.
#28
Re: New Rule On Conduct

ImWithStupid said:
I hope your questions were answered.
Almost. The inappropriate language question- Is it possible to have inappropriate language with the language filter in place? I have seen some work around the filter- is that "inappropriate language"?

BrotherMan said:
I would like to complain about this post. I would like to see an apology. This looks like nothing but personal attacks by wez.
I agree. We have a decent discussion going here, and who starts the bickering back up?



Feckless Wench said:
Oh god....not THAT again....LMAO!!!
I agree here too. :)
 

wez

Big Time BS
#29
Re: New Rule On Conduct

I apologize to TJ.. Sorry bud.




Really no need to reiterate your position that I am a killer because I killed my child on this either TJ, ... Didn't really care but rules are rules..


So, I guess in the spirit of the rules I'll have to lodge a formal complaint... and cry myself to sleep...
 

ImWithStupid

Super Moderator
#30
Re: New Rule On Conduct

wez said:
I apologize to TJ.. Sorry bud.




Really no need to reiterate your position that I am a killer because I killed my child on this either TJ, ... Didn't really care but rules are rules...
It probably would have been a time to report the post to the staff as a better option, if you felt there was a problem with what someone said (i.e. the "killer" topic).


wez said:
So, I guess in the spirit of the rules I'll have to lodge a formal complaint... and cry myself to sleep...
Watch it Wez. You know what is a necessary comment and what isn't.
 

wez

Big Time BS
#31
Re: New Rule On Conduct

ImWithStupid said:
It probably would have been a time to report the post to the staff as a better option, if you felt there was a problem with what someone said (i.e. the "killer" topic).




Watch it Wez. You know what is a necessary comment and what isn't.

I'm not good at only saying what's necessary... I'm a smartass. Oh well.. your site. You guys do what you think is best for it.. If I need to be tazed, no hard feelings.. :D


You guys don't ever have to worry about me reporting anything.. I'm a big boy with thick skin..

For the record, anyone can say anything they want to me whenever they want to say it...
 

snafu

Big Time BS'er
#32
Re: New Rule On Conduct

wez said:
I'm not good at only saying what's necessary... I'm a smartass. Oh well.. your site. You guys do what you think is best for it.. If I need to be tazed, no hard feelings.. :D


You guys don't ever have to worry about me reporting anything.. I'm a big boy with thick skin..

For the record, anyone can say anything they want to me whenever they want to say it...
Bailiff! Wack his pee pee!
 

Cloaked

Iron Fisted Ruler
Staff member
#34
Re: New Rule On Conduct

wez said:
I'd like to report snaf for sexual harrassment.. :D
Go through the proper channels to file a complaint. Failure to do so will result in a double wacking of the pee pee.
 

eddo

I don't like you.
#35
Re: New Rule On Conduct

wez said:
I'm not good at only saying what's necessary... I'm a smartass. Oh well.. your site. You guys do what you think is best for it.. If I need to be tazed, no hard feelings.. :D
You guys don't ever have to worry about me reporting anything.. I'm a big boy with thick skin..
For the record, anyone can say anything they want to me whenever they want to say it...
The reporting isn't because anyone is too afraid of you to say it to your face, as you imply, it is to keep the bickering off of the board.

It is pretty obvious that some of us cannot handle our bickering without it spilling over onto everything, so this way a mod can view it and make a determination without the constant crap about it.

Honestly, I like it. It will take some getting used to, but as long as the rules are applied to everyone equally, there won't be a thing for any of us to gripe about. it might be a little hairy at first for IWS, but in the long run it should make this a better p[lace to be.
 

ImWithStupid

Super Moderator
#36
Re: New Rule On Conduct

wez said:
I'm not good at only saying what's necessary... I'm a smartass. Oh well.. your site. You guys do what you think is best for it.. If I need to be tazed, no hard feelings.. :D


You guys don't ever have to worry about me reporting anything.. I'm a big boy with thick skin..
As you know, not everyone is like this, and one person may take what is said personal where someone else may not.

wez said:
For the record, anyone can say anything they want to me whenever they want to say it...
If you truly mean this then that's fine, just don't respond to others the same.
 

ImWithStupid

Super Moderator
#37
Re: New Rule On Conduct

eddo said:
It will take some getting used to, but as long as the rules are applied to everyone equally, there won't be a thing for any of us to gripe about. it might be a little hairy at first for IWS, but in the long run it should make this a better p[lace to be.
In what way. :confused:
 

wez

Big Time BS
#38
Re: New Rule On Conduct

ImWithStupid said:
As you know, not everyone is like this, and one person may take what is said personal where someone else may not.



If you truly mean this then that's fine, just don't respond to others the same.

Really, all I can do is be me.. like I said, you guys do what you think is best.. No hard feelings no matter what.. seriously.

Just keep away from my pee pee...:D
 

wez

Big Time BS
#39
Re: New Rule On Conduct

ImWithStupid said:
In what way. :confused:

You'll find out when the complaints start flooding in.. that's how it works. Bombard you with cries of injustice until you do the bidding of the victims..
 

eddo

I don't like you.
#40
Re: New Rule On Conduct

ImWithStupid;25287][quote name= said:
In what way. :confused:
In the way that you might get a lot of griping at first, a lot of posts reported that are frivolous, or some using the system for payback- because some won't like this- but as they get used to it, and you, it will get better.