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Schoolyard Taunting

timesjoke

Progressive Killer
The easiest way of telling what is flame and what is not is if you look at who is still talking about the topic.

My comment to you was you running away from the topic, all of this your doing is to escape the topic you can't stand up to.
 

ImWithStupid

Super Moderator
The easiest way of telling what is flame and what is not is if you look at who is still talking about the topic.

My comment to you was you running away from the topic, all of this your doing is to escape the topic you can't stand up to.

You're just trying to back peddle because RO caught you being a hypocrite about one of your famous all/none, always/never, comments and are now trying to spin it like a faggoty, little, c0cksucking, male ballet dancer. B)
 
Palin's record is more liberal than GW Bush's was when he was governor of Texas. In 2000 conservative Republicans voted overwhelmingly for GW and we ended up with 8 years of reckless spending and government growth. I'll vote for someone in 2012 who believes in limited government. That ain't Palin.

I ain't even talking about independents. There are Republicans that actually believe in limited government and are not simply political opportunists jumping on the bandwagon, ie Sarah Palin. Y'all gonna vote for a commie just cuz she's cute with her makeup on.
Regardless of Sarah Palin's and Dubya's supposed 'belief systems', they are both bone-chillingly stupid / incompetent and not the kind of people you'd want in government.

Yeah?

Yeah?

Yeah?

Please say yeah. All of you.

Also, I don't understand how anyone can support any kind of system other than one that might actually work, ie: a socialism based (taxed & managed) system where basic needs are met by government + individual innovation is rewarded (capitalism) + potential damage to the system (eg, pollution and unsustainable use of resources) is regulated via a fair economic paradigm (ecological economics).

Any other kind of system would be unstable, unfair, unsustainable and vulnerable to anarchy.
 

timesjoke

Progressive Killer
Conversing with TJ is like continually petting a dog that you know damn well is going to eventually nip you...it's craziness! Pure craziness.
I don't think that is fair Ali, me and you have had our issues but I am really working hard to try and be better at getting along without having to give up on my beliefs that things like personal responsibility are whar make America great while the lack is what tears us apart.


What I said was not a flame, it was a description and it was on topic with RO dodging a question. I asked you one time to help me be better so help me Ali, if you asked someone a direct question and they dodged it, what would be a nicer way of being firm and getting them to answer the question?


Any other kind of system would be unstable, unfair, unsustainable and vulnerable to anarchy.

You know Anna, the strongest, most powerful force for freedom in the world is a Country based on capitalism.


This same Country is getting weaker and weaker as we move closer to socialism. How many truly socialist Countries are helping other Countries the way we help for example?
 

ren

Big Time BS'er
Regardless of Sarah Palin's and Dubya's supposed 'belief systems', they are both bone-chillingly stupid / incompetent and not the kind of people you'd want in government.

Yeah?

Yeah?

Yeah?

Please say yeah. All of you.

Also, I don't understand how anyone can support any kind of system other than one that might actually work, ie: a socialism based (taxed & managed) system where basic needs are met by government + individual innovation is rewarded (capitalism) + potential damage to the system (eg, pollution and unsustainable use of resources) is regulated via a fair economic paradigm (ecological economics).

Any other kind of system would be unstable, unfair, unsustainable and vulnerable to anarchy.
I'm not into politics but I do agree with your assessments of Palin and Bush. So I say "yeah"
 

RoyalOrleans

I Am Not the Fine Man You Take Me For
I don't think that is fair Ali, me and you have had our issues but I am really working hard to try and be better at getting along without having to give up on my beliefs that things like personal responsibility are whar make America great while the lack is what tears us apart.


What I said was not a flame, it was a description and it was on topic with RO dodging a question. I asked you one time to help me be better so help me Ali, if you asked someone a direct question and they dodged it, what would be a nicer way of being firm and getting them to answer the question?
You should work harder, TJ.

This time make it believable.
 

timesjoke

Progressive Killer
You should work harder, TJ.

This time make it believable.
Those who do not want to believe never will.


If you were really hurt by my comment about your running away from the question then you can also help me find new ways of saying the same thing in a 'softer' way RO. What would have been a better and nicer way of saying that you were intentionally avoiding the question but still be firm that the running away was not an honest thing to do if the person running away is interested in reasonable debate?


Another concept comes to mind, you could have just answered the question instead of running away in the first place, and then no comment from me about running away at all...........right?
 

RoyalOrleans

I Am Not the Fine Man You Take Me For
I don't remember you coming in to referee the Chi-bashing parties and call "foul" on the others. Why would you bring her up unless you are trying to divert attention off your gross inequities as a man?
This is my original flame to TJ.

As far as the flames are concerned, I took considerable heat because I gave back what I got, I undetrstand now the mess only gets worse by feeding into the flames by giving it back, but at the same time I am not going to be a punching bag. Flames are not supposed to be a part of the forum anyway and yes I know, your staff so you can choose not to enforce the rule on yourself but in reality it is a very good rule. So being as I am not one to just be a punching bag, and this is a great rule even if it will not be enforced, I will simply point it out when it happens instead of joining in as I used to do.

My responding to flames made by other people was not wrong RO.

But it was garbage the rest of the forum got tired of seeing so even though I was not really wrong to respond in kind, I was still not being fair to my forum mates by adding to the mess. So, from now on when someone flames I will try to not respond with more flames but instead simply point them out instead. There really is no excuse for flames anyway.
This remark, from 3/29/10, is another of TJ's responses to my flame. Here TJ condemns flaming and then he makes the vow to never respond to a flame with more flames.

Fast forward...

Your bias is showing RO. I am sure you will delete this again but if your allowing other people to flame, I will reply not with returned flames but simply to defend myself and point out the flames for what they are. Post #39 in Right or Wrong
This remark, from 3/31/10, is TJ's response to something that he perceived as a flame and then he makes the same vow... never respond to a flame with more flames.

But my point is valid and that is why your running away from it like a scared little girl.
Then TJ waltzes into the voting thread and flames me for an answer that did not satisfy him.

Scared little girl? Gross inequities as a man? Despite the verbiage, both statements imply the same thing: "taking a shot at either's manhood".

The only, single difference here is: I never made such a vow as to never return a flame with a flame. TJ did in fact make that vow as noted on two separate occasion, listed above, and I caught him in a lie.

Though he has argued mightily what he said was not a flame, I would beg to differ the case of flames being subjective. He has also argued that it was inline with the debate, however his poor choice of words in the analogy was poorly received. As his subsequent posts have all been vindictive and accusatory implying that I did not answer his question.

Bottom line: TJ is a hypocrite. I caught him red-handed in lies. He puts up a big stink about it, because all he is trying to do is "save face" and divert attention away from himself.
 

ImWithStupid

Super Moderator
Another concept comes to mind, you could have just answered the question instead of running away in the first place, and then no comment from me about running away at all...........right?

Translation: If she just would have done the dishes like she was told, then there wouldn't be a need for me to give her that black eye.

Blameshift tactics.
 

timesjoke

Progressive Killer
You have to take my words out of context to try and twist them into a flame, when the "entire" sentence is looked at you see my first words were that you ran away, then I describes a style of running away, that is the only way to take that comment for a reasonable person.

Now you have put me on moderation unless I admit I flamed you, and I cannot admit to something that never happened.



You see RO, your staff now, and your supposed to be setting the example. When you flam someone that is telling everyone on the forum that your behavior is what is expected. We even have rules against direct flames and still you have done it and have never apologized for your flame. Your comment was not on topic and had nothing to do with the discussion but was instead designed only to belittle and demean. Your purpose was evil and nasty RO. My comment on the other hand was designed to get you to respond to the question you had dodged, there was nothing evil about trying to get you back on topic RO.
 
Either the words are in context or they are not, in your usage of my words, you have to take a couple words outside of their context to turn them into a flame.

On the other hand, your comment in context was fully insulting, had nothing to do with the topic being discussed and there can be no other intent for those words even if we did take a couple words out of the sentence as you did with my words.


Is this it RO? Is this what you had in mind all along? It sure seems that way, the problem is I have changed, I have been working harder to be a better person and do you give me one ounce of credit for that? No, I can't credit for that because that does not serve your desire to remove me no matter what I say or do.
 

ren

Big Time BS'er
Wow guys you don't know what flaming is. I just came off of a forum with a member that made Times look like Alice in Wonderland. Times isn't all that bad he just has a knack for pissing people off. I suggest a mental health day for all :blink:
 

wez

Big Time BS
Flames, blames and shames.. boodily f*ckin' hoo.. Scared little girls and grossly inequitied men..

I think everyone knows I'm not TJ's #1 fan.. but I think it's rather ridiculous to "moderate" him to try to force him to admit something.. Or to just plain f*ck with him.. Sounds exactly like something TJ would do if he could.. why stoop? I don't want someone else deciding what of TJ's I can and can't read.. or someone deciding who I can or can't interact with if I choose. We're all adults here. If I can't take it, I can leave.. simple enough.

Let him be himself.. and let him post his hypocritical, double standardized, long winded, manipulative, judgmental, brimming with lies, meaningless posts.. who cares? Ignore him, laugh in his face, call him on his bullshit, "flam" the living piss out of him.. defend yourself.. learn patience from it.. but.. let him speak freely.
 

eddo

I don't like you.
I think everyone knows I'm not TJ's #1 fan.. but I think it's rather ridiculous to "moderate" him to try to force him to admit something.. Or to just plain f*ck with him.. Sounds exactly like something TJ would do if he could.. why stoop? I don't want someone else deciding what of TJ's I can and can't read.. or someone deciding who I can or can't interact with if I choose. We're all adults here. If I can't take it, I can leave.. simple enough.
If you and TJ were the only ones here, I'd be all for that.

Unfortunately for your idea, there are more than just the two of you, and if everyone gets tired of his crap (or anyone elses for that matter) and start to leave, then the board dies. I don't want that. Others don't want that. Others have left because of his crap (and others for that matter, including my own messes.) Sometimes people just don't fit somewhere and need encouragement to move elsewhere. It doesn't mean he is a bad person, or that he's gonna get fired when he goes to work today, or that Tami's right tit is now going to explode.

It just means that he isn't welcome here right now, and at some point he will learn that and really adjust, or he'll stay gone from here.