[IWS]

Now, I need to buy some ammo and drive to San Francisco. It's a total honey-hole if you want to bag your limit of liberals whack-jobs.

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Police: Man shot churchgoers over liberal views

By DUNCAN MANSFIELD, Associated Press Writer
6 minutes ago

KNOXVILLE, Tenn. - An unemployed man accused of opening fire with a shotgun and killing two people at a Unitarian church apparently targeted the congregation out of hatred for its liberal social policies, police said Monday.

Police: Man shot churchgoers over liberal views - Yahoo! News

Thanks a lot jerk. Now, the Dems are gonna want an assault weapon ban and a duck gun ban.

[wez]

ImWithStupid said:

Now, I need to buy some ammo and drive to San Francisco. It's a total honey-hole if you want to bag your limit of liberals whack-jobs.



Police: Man shot churchgoers over liberal views - Yahoo! News

Thanks a lot jerk. Now, the Dems are gonna want an assault weapon ban and a duck gun ban.

Anyone seen TJ lately? :rolleyes:

[Phreakwars]

How about a ban on whack job conservatives instead?

Guns don't kill people, conservatives kill people.
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[IWS]

Bender said:

How about a ban on whack job conservatives instead?
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Works for me.

[eddo]

Bender said:

How about a ban on whack job conservatives instead?

ImWithStupid said:

Works for me.

I'm all for it. How can one possibly think it is ok to shoot people in a room full of kids, just because of their liberal views? Dumbass.

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To bad no one was armed in the church. Oh that's right they don't want guns to protect themselves. :rolleyes:

I guess that was mean.:o

[wez]

snafu said:

To bad no one was armed in the church. Oh that's right they don't want guns to protect themselves. :rolleyes:

I guess that was mean.:o

Hard to claim you follow Jesus and pack heat...

I could just see some moron in the congregation thinking he was Dirty freakin Harry killing the perp... and 4 more innocent victims. :rolleyes:

[IWS]

wez said:

Hard to claim you follow Jesus and pack heat...

I don't see where those would necessarily contradict one another.

[wez]

ImWithStupid said:

I don't see where those would necessarily contradict one another.

I'd have to say you'd be an exception being an officer... ;)

But it pretty much goes against everything he taught...

[snafu]

You don't think the Pope has armed guards?

[Phreakwars]

There is a point to be made here with this shooting though... You rarely ever hear of a "LIBERAL" carrying out an act of violence such as this because they may hate or disagree with the "OTHER" sides views. The fundamental overall mindset of a Liberal, is "PEACE TO ALL, EVEN MY ENEMY".

It was reported this guy was all pissed off that his food stamps were being cut, he of course, blamed those "HIPPY LIBERALS".

WHAT ?? A LIBERAL WANTS YOU TO HAVE LESS FOOD STAMPS? Get real, the average Liberal would scream bloody murder if he saw you were going to be suffering from some government program benefit cut.

Fukker should have been grateful in the first place, that some Liberal bastards got together and decided there should be a program to help his pathetic ass out when he was at a low spot in his life and create food stamps to help him live.

Hell that's the #1 complaint about the Liberals and their alleged SOCIALISTIC agenda. They wanna give welfare to everyone for crying out loud !!!

What in the hell would make this idiot think that a Liberal was in any way responsible for his food stamps being cut? I am 100% confident we can all pretty much figure out who was responsible for taking away someones welfare.

But see, that's the distortion playing into this guys mind... things are going bad.. it MUST be those damn Liberals again.

I wonder what he's gonna do when REALITY finally hits him. He didn't think out his hatred reasoning all too well now, did he?

My point is, I hate CONSERVATISM (Not Republicans) because of this hatred they have, because of this classist view they have on their own Patriotism. Because of this uncalled for ANGER AND NEED TO HURT that was thrown at them, from all places... the fukkin bible !!

This shooting was no less then DOMESTIC TERRORISM caused by deluded thinking.

The SAME DAMN THING the Muslim Extremists do.
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wez said:

I'd have to say you'd be an exception being an officer... ;)

But it pretty much goes against everything he taught...

Not really. Many religious scholars say Jesus never said to be a push over and be a victim.

Take the whole turn the other cheek thing...

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A figurative interpretation relies on historical and other factors. At the time of Jesus, striking someone deemed to be of a lower class with the back of the hand was used to assert authority and dominance. If the persecuted person "turned the other cheek," the discipliner was faced with a dilemma. The left hand was used for unclean purposes, so a back-hand strike on the opposite cheek would not be performed. The other alternative would be a slap with the open hand as a challenge or to punch the person, but this was seen as a statement of equality. Thus, by turning the other cheek the persecuted was in effect demanding equality.

If they hit with an open hand, you could then retaliate.

[wez]

snafu said:

You don't think the Pope has armed guards?

Pope John got shot, visited his shooter in prison... Forgave him. He didn't open fire on him...


Peter cuts off ear protecting Jesus, Jesus stops him and freely goes with his captors.. They beat the living daylights out of him.. Took it all and begged for their forgivness on the cross. Didn't retaliate. Had he retaliated, just another forgotten man in history, not the savior of the human race who taught by example.

This post has been edited by wez: 29 July 2008 - 03:30 AM

[IWS]

Bender said:

There is a point to be made here with this shooting though... You rarely ever hear of a "LIBERAL" carrying out an act of violence such as this because they may hate or disagree with the "OTHER" sides views. The fundamental overall mindset of a Liberal, is "PEACE TO ALL, EVEN MY ENEMY".

It was reported this guy was all pissed off that his food stamps were being cut, he of course, blamed those "HIPPY LIBERALS".

WHAT ?? A LIBERAL WANTS YOU TO HAVE LESS FOOD STAMPS? Get real, the average Liberal would scream bloody murder if he saw you were going to be suffering from some government program benefit cut.

Hell that's the #1 complaint about the Liberals and their alleged SOCIALISTIC agenda. They wanna give welfare to everyone for crying out loud !!!

What in the hell would make this idiot think that a Liberal was in any way responsible for his food stamps being cut? I am 100% confident we can all pretty much figure out who was responsible for taking away someones welfare.

But see, that's the distortion playing into this guys mind... things are going bad.. it MUST be those damn Liberals again.

I wonder what he's gonna do when REALITY finally hits him. He didn't think out his hatred reasoning all too well now, did he?

My point is, I hate CONSERVATISM (Not Republicans) because of this hatred they have, because of this classist view they have on their own Patriotism. Because of this uncalled for ANGER AND NEED TO HURT that was thrown at them, from all places... the fukkin bible !!

This shooting was no less then DOMESTIC TERRORISM caused by deluded thinking.

The SAME DAMN THING the Muslim Extremists do.
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Yea, you're right. Historically in the US the liberals have resorted to bombings, such as the bombings in college campuses and recruitment centers in the 60s that tend to kill far more indiscriminately and cowardly.

As far as conservatism, there are many different types of conservatism. There is fiscal conservatives, social conservatives, religious conservatives, cultural conservatives, etc...

I truly believe that you are a fiscal conservative but a social, religous and cultural liberal.

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ImWithStupid said:

Not really. Many religious scholars say Jesus never said to be a push over and be a victim.

He never did say that. and I wouldn't classify what happened at the end of his life as him being a pushover and a victim.. Love over hate.

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wez said:

Pope John got shot, visited his shooter in prison... Forgave him. He didn't open fire on him...


Peter cuts off ear protecting Jesus, Jesus stops him and freely goes with his captors.. They beat the living daylights out of him.. Took it all and begged for their forgivness on the cross. Didn't retaliate. Had he retaliated, just another forgotten man in history, not the savior of the human race who taught by example.

You really can't count Jesus actions at this point as he had already had his time in the desert where he was tempted by the devil and he was told about his role by the Archangel Michael. So his actions at that point was a means to an end.

[wez]

ImWithStupid said:

You really can't count Jesus actions at this point as he had already had his time in the desert where he was tempted by the devil and he was told about his role by the Archangel Michael. So his actions at that point was a means to an end.

What was the end? For what purpose? If the lesson was the opposite, why didn't he go out in a blaze of glory?

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wez said:

What was the end? For what purpose? If the lesson was the opposite, why didn't he go out in a blaze of glory?

He knew he had to die to save us from our sins. Why would he resist? It would only delay what needed to happen.

My point was that I don't think Jesus was against defending yourself, he was against agression.

[wez]

ImWithStupid said:

He knew he had to die to save us from our sins. Why would he resist? It would only delay what needed to happen.

My point was that I don't think Jesus was against defending yourself, he was against agression.

I think he taught passive resistance..

The point being, if you meet aggression with agression, you give the agressor the validation they need to be aggressive.

Ever watched some aggressive asshole beat on a guy while demanding they fight back, and stop quick if they don't?

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[IWS]

wez said:

Ever watched some aggressive asshole beat on a guy while demanding they fight back, and stop quick if they don't?

I've seen the result of someone being beaten within an inch of their life because they didn't defend themselves.

I don't think Jesus wants anyone to sit there and be slaughtered without trying to defend themselves. There is a difference between aggression and defending ones self. In fact, they are kind of opposite.