[snafu]

I'm guilty of throwing around the name liberal. It seems nobody wants to be called a liberal. Whys that?
To me a liberal is a Ted Kennedy. Someone that wants to tie our hands when it comes to the military. A liberal Cut defense and remain passive. Someone who allows our borders to remain pores and claims illegal are an American workforce. Someone who thinks abortion is a right to women.
But I guess there?s a bit of liberal in all of us.

How liberal are you?

Blogthings - How Liberal Or Conservative Are You?

Defintions:

Liberalism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

liberal - Definitions from Dictionary.com

[wez]

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Liberalism refers to a broad array of related ideas and theories of government that consider individual liberty to be the most important political goal.[1] Liberalism has its roots in the Western Age of Enlightenment.

Broadly speaking, liberalism emphasizes individual rights and equality of opportunity. Different forms of liberalism may propose very different policies, but they are generally united by their support for a number of principles, including extensive freedom of thought and speech, limitations on the power of governments, the rule of law, the free exchange of ideas, a market or mixed economy, and a transparent system of government.[2] All liberals – as well as some adherents of other political ideologies – support some variant of the form of government known as liberal democracy, with open and fair elections, where all citizens have equal rights by law.[3]

Hell yeah I'm a liberal according to that...

Seems to me the drafters of the Constitution were as well..

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—Related forms
lib?er?al?ly, adverb
lib?er?al?ness, noun


—Synonyms 1. progressive. 7. broad-minded, unprejudiced. 9. beneficent, charitable, openhanded, munificent, unstinting, lavish. See generous. 10. See ample.

—Antonyms 1. reactionary. 8. intolerant. 9, 10. niggardly.

Role reversal?

For those English deficient, synonyms = the same

Antonyms = the opposite.





Hahahaha.. here's my quiz...

Overall: 40% Conservative, 60% Liberal

Social Issues: 25% Conservative, 75% Liberal

Personal Responsibility: 25% Conservative, 75% Liberal

Fiscal Issues: 100% Conservative, 0% Liberal

Ethics: 0% Conservative, 100% Liberal

Defense and Crime: 50% Conservative, 50% Liberal

[snafu]

My politcal profile:


Overall: 65% Conservative, 35% Liberal

Social Issues: 50% Conservative, 50% Liberal

Personal Responsibility: 50% Conservative, 50% Liberal

Fiscal Issues: 100% Conservative, 0% Liberal

Ethics: 25% Conservative, 75% Liberal

Defense and Crime: 100% Conservative, 0% Liberal

[wez]

snafu said:

My politcal profile:


Overall: 65% Conservative, 35% Liberal

Social Issues: 50% Conservative, 50% Liberal

Personal Responsibility: 50% Conservative, 50% Liberal

Fiscal Issues: 100% Conservative, 0% Liberal

Ethics: 25% Conservative, 75% Liberal

Defense and Crime: 100% Conservative, 0% Liberal

Not surprising since I know how you answered the abortion, war and Iraq questions.. :p

Appears conservatives aren't too ethical when it comes to ethics.. :D

[IWS]

This survey had either too few options for answers as my view didn't quite fit exactly on some things or they should have had a "rate of importance" 1 - 5 option to go with it to probably be more accurate.

They are fun to do though.

My results were...

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Overall: 80% Conservative, 20% Liberal

Social Issues: 50% Conservative, 50% Liberal

Personal Responsibility: 75% Conservative, 25% Liberal

Fiscal Issues: 100% Conservative, 0% Liberal

Ethics: 75% Conservative, 25% Liberal

Defense and Crime: 100% Conservative, 0% Liberal

[hugo]

Liberalism refers to a broad array of related ideas and theories of government that consider individual liberty to be the most important political goal.[1] Liberalism has its roots in the Western Age of Enlightenment.

Broadly speaking, liberalism emphasizes individual rights (now group rights)and equality of opportunity (unless you are white or asian). Different forms of liberalism may propose very different policies, but they are generally united by their support for a number of principles, including extensive freedom of thought and speech, limitations on the power of governments:eek:, the rule of law, the free exchange of ideas, a market or mixed economy, and a transparent system of government.[2] All liberals – as well as some adherents of other political ideologies – support some variant of the form of government known as liberal democracy, with open and fair elections, where all citizens have equal rights by law.[3]

It looks like ya posted the pre FDR definition.

[RaE]

These are my honest results.

Overall: 100% Conservative, 0% Liberal

Social Issues: 100% Conservative, 0% Liberal

Personal Responsibility: 100% Conservative, 0% Liberal

Fiscal Issues: 100% Conservative, 0% Liberal

Ethics: 100% Conservative, 0% Liberal

Defense and Crime: 100% Conservative, 0% Liberal

[wez]

BrotherMan said:

These are my honest results.

Overall: 100% Conservative, 0% Liberal

Social Issues: 100% Conservative, 0% Liberal

Personal Responsibility: 100% Conservative, 0% Liberal

Fiscal Issues: 100% Conservative, 0% Liberal

Ethics: 100% Conservative, 0% Liberal

Defense and Crime: 100% Conservative, 0% Liberal

Nice to know you value money more than human life.. :p

How many tries did it take til you got the results you needed to avoiding lookin a fool? Hahahahahahaha

[RaE]

wez said:

Nice to know you value money more than human life.. :p

How many tries did it take til you got the results you needed to avoiding lookin a fool? Hahahahahahaha

i got it right on the first try.

However, I do agree with IWS, there does need to be more options.

How many times did you take it?

[eddo]

Here's mine.

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Overall: 85% Conservative, 15% Liberal

Social Issues: 100% Conservative, 0% Liberal

Personal Responsibility: 75% Conservative, 25% Liberal

Fiscal Issues: 100% Conservative, 0% Liberal

Ethics: 50% Conservative, 50% Liberal

Defense and Crime: 100% Conservative, 0% Liberal

Rather loaded (towards the left) questions, if you ask me.

[wez]

BrotherMan said:

i got it right on the first try.

However, I do agree with IWS, there does need to be more options.

How many times did you take it?

I got it right on the first try... I believe in individual liberty and limited goverment, unlike conservatives..

They were pretty useless questions to gauge any kind of politcal pigeon hole.. pretty funny though.

[IWS]

wez said:

I got it right on the first try... I believe in individual liberty and limited goverment, unlike conservatives..

Acutally individual liberty and limited government is what conservatism was supposed to be like. You are thinking of the religious right and what the Rebublicans have allowed the supposed conservatives to mean.

Big government and a nanny/welfare state is what the Democrats have become.

[RaE]

ImWithStupid said:

Acutally individual liberty and limited government is what conservatism was supposed to be like. You are thinking of the religious right and what the Rebublicans have allowed the supposed conservatives to mean.

Big government and a nanny/welfare state is what the Democrats have become.

exactly. I agree with this.

[wez]

ImWithStupid said:

Acutally individual liberty and limited government is what conservatism was supposed to be like. You are thinking of the religious right and what the Rebublicans have allowed the supposed conservatives to mean.

Big government and a nanny/welfare state is what the Democrats have become.

Seems there's been a role reversal in what people are suppose to stand for.. Conservative and liberal have no meaning anymore in our politics.. No matter who it's been or what they claim it has been on the same track for at least 60 years.

I mean really, who the hell wants big government up their ass their entire life? I don't think most "democrats" want that. The only people who want that are the people and their friends and families who benifit from that.. Career politicians and their idiot son in laws who needs a cushy job to support their daughter in the manner she has been accustomed.. Republicans and democrats alike fit the bill while we all sit here and argue about differences that don't even exist while they freely spend our money on their own welfare.

[snafu]

I believe in a health care program for everybody. I guess that?s were flipped on the liberal side.

[Old Salt]

Here's my results:

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Overall: 80% Conservative, 20% Liberal

Social Issues: 100% Conservative, 0% Liberal

Personal Responsibility: 50% Conservative, 50% Liberal

Fiscal Issues: 100% Conservative, 0% Liberal

Ethics: 50% Conservative, 50% Liberal

Defense and Crime: 100% Conservative, 0% Liberal

A lot of those questions were definitely off-the-wall on each end of the spectrum. Had to decide which I was closer to but neither accurately reflected my feelings on the subject.

[IWS]

snafu said:

I believe in a health care program for everybody. I guess that’s were flipped on the liberal side.

I feel a bit differently and this is one of the questions that I had to answer that if believed in health care for everyone even if they can't afford it.

I believe, just as we have now, that no one should be turned away or refused treatment because they can't pay.

I don't agree with the taxpayer paying for every perk and possible medical treatment that could be voluntary and not necessary because they find a doctor to cook the forms to make the government pay for it. We have enough of that going on right now with insurance companies. I don't want my tax money paying for someone else's treatment that isn't medically necessary for their health. Like when doctors pretend a woman needs a breast reduction for a bad back but is lying, for example.

If the many insurance companies can't keep up with investigating the fraud committed by their policy holders, do you really think the government would be able to keep up with the 300 million legal citizens of the US to prevent fraud, not to mention the 20 million illegal immigrants that, under the wrong new administration, will be added to that total.

You may as well look forward to paying between 25 to 40% in Federal income tax to pay for everyone else's medical coverage. (not including State, local, fuel, sales, etc... tax)

[wez]

ImWithStupid said:

I feel a bit differently and this is one of the questions that I had to answer that if believed in health care for everyone even if they can't afford it.

I believe, just as we have now, that no one should be turned away or refused treatment because they can't pay.

I don't agree with the taxpayer paying for every perk and possible medical treatment that could be voluntary and not necessary because they find a doctor to cook the forms to make the government pay for it. We have enough of that going on right now with insurance companies. I don't want my tax money paying for someone else's treatment that isn't medically necessary for their health. Like when doctors pretend a woman needs a breast reduction for a bad back but is lying, for example.

If the many insurance companies can't keep up with investigating the fraud committed by their policy holders, do you really think the government would be able to keep up with the 300 million legal citizens of the US to prevent fraud, not to mention the 20 million illegal immigrants that, under the wrong new administration, will be added to that total.

You may as well look forward to paying between 25 to 40% in Federal income tax to pay for everyone else's medical coverage. (not including State, local, fuel, sales, etc... tax)

Kinda what medicaid is... the young will pay it, but the young will not get it. Not only that, but the circumstances so enjoyed by previous generations of ever increasing wages and company pensions will not be available to them either.. Hope people like the taste of cat food in 30 years.. And working til they drop dead in debt.

Things have changed.. greatest generation my ass... sold their kids and grandkids into slavery is what they did.

[snafu]

ImWithStupid said:

I feel a bit differently and this is one of the questions that I had to answer that if believed in health care for everyone even if they can't afford it.

I believe, just as we have now, that no one should be turned away or refused treatment because they can't pay.

I don't agree with the taxpayer paying for every perk and possible medical treatment that could be voluntary and not necessary because they find a doctor to cook the forms to make the government pay for it. We have enough of that going on right now with insurance companies. I don't want my tax money paying for someone else's treatment that isn't medically necessary for their health. Like when doctors pretend a woman needs a breast reduction for a bad back but is lying, for example.

If the many insurance companies can't keep up with investigating the fraud committed by their policy holders, do you really think the government would be able to keep up with the 300 million legal citizens of the US to prevent fraud, not to mention the 20 million illegal immigrants that, under the wrong new administration, will be added to that total.

You may as well look forward to paying between 25 to 40% in Federal income tax to pay for everyone else's medical coverage. (not including State, local, fuel, sales, etc... tax)

I can understand that. It would bring on a lot of fraud from the doctors as well as the patients. I just don't like the idea of people dying because they couldn't afford treatment.

[IWS]

snafu said:

I can understand that. It would bring on a lot of fraud from the doctors as well as the patients. I just don't like the idea of people dying because they couldn't afford treatment.

But public hospitals already can not legally turn anyone away for treatment for lack of being able to pay.

In fact I read that our local hospital, where I live, won't even ask if you have insurance until your treatment is completed. That way you can't claim you were not treated as well as someone with insurance.