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#1 wez

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Posted 27 February 2008 - 05:57 PM

Back in 1989, we invaded Panama.. Here's the story as told by this film from 1992. It's about 1 1/2 hours long but I found it on youtube in like 10 parts. Here they are.. enjoy...

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pt 2

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[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8igrv0sHa10&feature=related"]YouTube - The Panama Deception (1992) Part 03 of 09[/ame]

pt 4

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=izQcPb_OU_I&feature=related"]YouTube - The Panama Deception (1992) Part 04 of 09[/ame]

pt 5

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zPzAK_tlAGQ"]YouTube - The Panama Deception (1992) Part 05 of 09[/ame]

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[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZDf_PlcLx8"]YouTube - The Panama Deception (1992) Part 06 of 09[/ame]

pt 7

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nl3u52TBcdo"]YouTube - The Panama Deception (1992) Part 07 of 09[/ame]

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[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDVdlZYEXIo"]YouTube - The Panama Deception (1992) Part 08 of 09[/ame]

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[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HOXeaI8bpxc"]YouTube - The Panama Deception (1992) Part 09 of 09[/ame]

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#2 eddo

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Posted 27 February 2008 - 06:38 PM

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#3 wez

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Posted 27 February 2008 - 07:02 PM

I remember seeing this about 15 years ago on PBS. Made quite an impact on me. Not gonna see it on prime time, or the evening news.

Part 2 finally loaded.. The Iran Contra scandel tie in.. I nearly forgot all about that. I guess that was the idea though.. if it's a secret, it never happened.

part 7 is rather interesting.. even with permission, young American GI's are trying to stop filming and interviews of people in the refugee camps.. A 10x10 space with blankets for walls.. Wonder why? Seen it yet TJ? I need some help understanding what I'm seeing..

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All the information we're getting out of the pentagon seems to conflict with all the eyewitness reports we're getting.~ Bryant Gumball

What the hell is up with that?

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There was still dead bodies inside cars ~ Roberto Duran.. yeah, the famous boxer.

Dan Rather? Former government officials, actual footage, eyewitness accounts? Are all these people lying? I need some help here.. TJ? Anyone?

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Even though the official US death toll was 550, they do admit that 75% were civilians

?? There were thousands killed.. many, many thousands. What the hell is this crap? Some idiot says it = truth? The facts and pictures say different.. Good thing no one cares..

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We are a plutocracy, we ought to face it. ~ Ramsey Clark, former US attorney general.

Is this man a liar?

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Posted 27 February 2008 - 10:06 PM

eddo said:

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

I have to agree, lol.

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#5 wez

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Posted 29 February 2008 - 02:58 PM

Why would a country pass a law saying it can NEVER have a military? Seems odd.. Unless you're Japan and got nuked back to the stone age and didn't have a choice.

But we turned the canal over in 2000 .. I guess.

What would be worse, being among the 250,000 vaporized by a nuke or being melted by a laser on your doorstep? That's a toss up..

Appears to me we are worse than what we hate and that is why we hate it.

Truth is definetly stranger than fiction.. and not nearly as pretty. Close the eyes and think good thoughts.. We are a democracy and your vote counts. Plutocracy my ass.. We have a constitution. :rolleyes:

Hypocrisy stinks, bad. So do rotting corpses..

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#6 wez

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Posted 11 March 2008 - 11:53 PM

Anyone besides me watch this? Quite interesting...

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#7 wez

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Posted 04 June 2008 - 02:30 PM

Hey TJ, watch this yet? :rolleyes:

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#8 wez

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Posted 22 August 2008 - 08:30 AM

Hello? Calling all Americans...

Musta been those evil Ruskies behind this atrocity.. Americans don't do crap like this, do we?

Funny, we never even claimed attack by Panama before we moved in...

I don't judge, label, and look down on people for what I am...

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#9 wez

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Posted 22 August 2008 - 02:22 PM

Hmmmmmmmm.. vids no longer available.. We'll see about that..

GB senior will be pleased to know they're fixed...

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Posted 30 August 2008 - 03:33 AM

Still here.. really happened..

Was the invasion of Panama justified, if so, why the secrecy? I'm feeling a little veclempt... Discuss among yourselves..

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Posted 31 August 2008 - 10:29 PM

We built Panama and then gave it back.
We put Panama on the map and made it a world wide commodity to import and exports goods around the globe.
And geologically speaking, they owed it to the world.

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Posted 01 September 2008 - 12:08 AM

The only good Panamanian is a dead Panamanian.

I don't make jokes. I just watch the government and report the facts. – Will Rogers

An Avidity to punish is always dangerous to liberty. It leads men to stretch, to misinterpret, and to misapply even the best of laws. He that would make his own liberty secure must guard even his enemy from oppression; for if he violates this duty he a establishes a precedent that will reach to himself. – Thomas Paine (1795)

Government is the great fiction, through which everybody endeavors to live at the expense of everybody else. – Frederic Bastiat

Sometimes it is said that man cannot be trusted with the government of himself. Can he, then, be trusted with the government of others? – Thomas Jefferson (1801)

This country is a one-party country. Half of it is called Republican and half is called Democrat. It doesn't make any difference. All the really good ideas belong to the Libertarians. – Hugh Downs (1997)

Good intentions will always be pleaded for every assumption of authority. It is hardly too strong to say that the Constitution was made to guard the people against the dangers of good intentions. There are men in all ages who mean to govern well, but they mean to govern. They promise to be good masters, but they mean to be masters. – Daniel Webster (1782-1852)

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#13 wez

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Posted 04 September 2008 - 05:01 AM

The only good Texan, is a non-farm animal molesting Texan.

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Posted 04 September 2008 - 05:06 AM

wez said:

The only good Texan, is a non-farm animal molesting Texan.

Even if the farm animal, obviously wanted it?

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Hundreds of members of the media and university professors, pledged to fix the story and cover for the Messiah, but leftists will argue that it's OK, they should still be entitled to first amendment, freedom of the press, rights. Cuz it's their guy.

#15 wez

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Posted 04 September 2008 - 05:19 AM

Hahahahahaha.... Well, in that case.. sure, what the hell, still a good Texan. :D

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#16 wez

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Posted 05 September 2008 - 07:01 PM

Could a non-Anti American, mature male around the age of 42, who stands in the shadows holding a bat, please come and explain this to me? Thank you...

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#17 wez

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Posted 30 November 2008 - 02:15 AM

I don't mean to sound like a broken record and dredge up the past but.. well, yeah, I do.. It yet remains to be addressed by anyone but myself.

Is the good we fight for and should blindly support with our patriotism? Or is this the evil we need to stand against and eradicate as rational compassionate human beings? Or should we just ignore it and claim wez is a retard?

Perhaps Conan and his sword can help me out... I'm confused here..

You'll be happy to know the vids still work..

Please explain..

After this, we can discuss Tim McVie..

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#18 wez

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Posted 30 November 2008 - 03:49 AM

Who should be held accountable for this? This was under the same president who sent our troops into battle in the first gulf war. Was that war based on standing up for good in the world and protecting the constitution at all costs as well? This was the father of the man who put our troops back in Iraq, which had Nothing to do with 9/11!

How romantic.. Fighting for truth, justice, and all things good and pure in the world... is that the reality though?Come show me why I should respect this sh*t, cause ya sure as fukk aint gonna scare/hardass/trash it outta me. That'll make me feel the opposite of respect.

Is doing what your told, or else, respectable? What if doing what your told is wrong in every way shape and form and you know it deep inside but are too chickensh*t to stand up and say it and refuse to comply so you follow the flock into battle? Sometimes "or else" is the proper choice no matter what it is.. If ya really wanna fight for, and defend what's right. Wouldn't you agree?

Is this sh*t respectable? I find it fukking contemptable, and take full responsibilty for it as an American. We outta be fukking ashamed of ourselves, not prancing around the fukking globe like Conan.

We can thank foreigners for the footage since our national media was kept an arms length away during the entire operation. How respectable.. odd though, you'd a thunk we'd have loved to have the world see our fight for goodness

Once again, I wont expect a reply.. foolish pride is too respectable to swallow and tell the fukking truth. So we lie to ourselves.. Meh.. no more for me. Truth is the truth is the truth.

Matter of fact, don't even bother watching.. ignorance is bliss.. Let's just say wez is a retard.

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Posted 30 November 2008 - 04:14 AM

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1989: On December 15, the Panamanian National Assembly names Noriega head of government and declares that Panama is in "a state of war" with the United States

Maybe, they should not have declared war. Duuuuhh.

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Posted 30 November 2008 - 04:30 AM

hugo said:

Maybe, they should not have declared war. Duuuuhh.

hahaha.. okie dokie.. maybe we should have not had him on the C.I.A. payroll throughout the 70's under then C.I.A. director George Bush and put him into power.. Duuuuuhh

Since he was our puppet gone awry and didn't wanna be a yes man anymore, kinda like Saddam, does that mean we really declared war on ourselves to justify invading?

Yep, we were taken by surprise by this declaration of war and slaughtered them 5days later.. Out of the blue Panama declares war on the United States?

See, we're the victims here.. just ask TJ.

What a fukking joke..

This post has been edited by wez: 30 November 2008 - 04:35 AM

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