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The Great Republican Small Business Scam - Special Report

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That's a load of sh*t. If I have to pay my taxes, there is no reason in the world they shouldn't have to either. I do love me some money, but tax dodging is wrong. Also, it's scary what Republicans define "small business" as.
 

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That's a load of sh*t. If I have to pay my taxes, there is no reason in the world they shouldn't have to either. I do love me some money, but tax dodging is wrong. Also, it's scary what Republicans define "small business" as.
Illegal tax dodging is wrong, but if the insane tax code allows for someone to use a loophole to keep more of their money, that's just being smart.

Bring on the flat tax and it wouldn't be an issue.
 
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That's a load of sh*t. If I have to pay my taxes, there is no reason in the world they shouldn't have to either. I do love me some money, but tax dodging is wrong. Also, it's scary what Republicans define "small business" as.
Illegal tax dodging is wrong, but if the insane tax code allows for someone to use a loophole to keep more of their money, that's just being smart.

Bring on the flat tax and it wouldn't be an issue.
Well said, it was complex and mismanaged tax laws that created the loopholes, the Government always falls short of being able to keep things under control, get rid of the mess by way of the flat tax. Right now there is more money sitting still than ever before in history because the "rich" can protect it that way. But they still spend money to buy things even if they are not investing money.
 
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Times : (15 September 2010 - 01:10 AM) I assume eddo that you um....gave a donation.... due to your saving yourself and all that.....lol

I'm okay with a hug, but Builder has to wash first, his coprophilia leaves a bad odor....

Because Builder would never waste a good dump when he can play with it instead, lol

You know Builder, even in Australia, there is treatments for your coprophilia

I bet you like it becuase you get really good turds to play with after eating it right Builder?

Has emkay joined you in that game?

Emaky seems like the coprophilia type too come to think of it.

Not a joke Builder, you have a serious problem that needs proper medical treatment

See how it has infected emkay?

Now even she is stuck on this infatuation.

You guys are messed up.

Why not try to be more normal?

coprophilia is nothign to joke about you two, why can't you take your problem seriously?

Joking it off will not make it go away.

So Builder, do you find playing with animal turds better than human waste?

How exactly does one advertise for partners of coprophilia while traveling?

Do you practice your coprophilia while you sleepwalk as well?

Is your gay lover into coprophilia or do you practice that outside your relationship?

Be careful with emkay, you won't be the first to get a gift that keeps on giving, lol.

Better to stay with your usual men and not be so desperate you need to be with someone like emkay.

So do you do the foot tapping think in bathrooms too Builder?

Or do you guys who love coprophilia have your own special signal?

Maybe a skid mark piece of paper tossed under the divider or something Builder?

Are there parts of your gay bars devoted to those who love coprophilia?

Times : (15 September 2010 - 01:32 AM) Well Builder, time for me to go make some money, have fun and remember, wash your hands before eating, feces is not considered an acceptable spice for food.
 
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That's a load of sh*t. If I have to pay my taxes, there is no reason in the world they shouldn't have to either. I do love me some money, but tax dodging is wrong. Also, it's scary what Republicans define "small business" as.
Illegal tax dodging is wrong, but if the insane tax code allows for someone to use a loophole to keep more of their money, that's just being smart.

Bring on the flat tax and it wouldn't be an issue.
It's still morally corrupt either way.

I also say we should bring on a flat tax.
 
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That's a load of sh*t. If I have to pay my taxes, there is no reason in the world they shouldn't have to either. I do love me some money, but tax dodging is wrong. Also, it's scary what Republicans define "small business" as.
Illegal tax dodging is wrong, but if the insane tax code allows for someone to use a loophole to keep more of their money, that's just being smart.

Bring on the flat tax and it wouldn't be an issue.
It's still morally corrupt either way.

I also say we should bring on a flat tax.
We are trying to agree with you, but the answer is not more Government, they will always fall short of the 'cure' because the bean counters and lawyers they hire to find the loopholes are always going to be smarter than the Government workers who try to close them. It just comes down to ability, and the ability of people who would choose to work for the Government instead of working in the private sector is going to be much lower than what is needed for the job.

So take it out of the hands of the Government workers who can't compete. The 'fair tax' will ensure everyone pays to support Government expenses.
 
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Higher taxes do NOT equal more government, where do you get that sh*t from? Flat tax won't work 50% tax on my income is more damaging to a 50% tax on a millionaires income.

How the hell do you get higher taxes for the rich means bigger government?

What, the government has more money now to buy more government employees? Is that the kind of sh*t point your trying to make?

How about tax the rich higher means offset the lower tax rate to the middle class.

This is why TJ is such a moron, he cheers on the people who keeps him subservient. Then accuses the opposition of sh*t like socialism?

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Higher taxes do NOT equal more government, where do you get that sh*t from? Flat tax won't work 50% tax on my income is more damaging to a 50% tax on a millionaires income.
It is always "someone else's" responsibility to pay for Government right Phreakwars? How many people do you employ? The millionare will usually reinvest his profit back into his company, hire more workers and do more business that generates more tax revenue for the Government.

Why is your income more sacred? Why should you be excluded?

The less money a person makes, the more Government services they take advantage of, the 'fair tax' is a consumption tax, if you spend a lot of money but hide that income (like shady rich guys or even drug dealers) then your still paying your fair share to support the Government operations. Hide your money in an off shore account or keep it in a mattress, who cares, because you still have to spend money to live, and there is no loopholes for that.

How the hell do you get higher taxes for the rich means bigger government?

What, the government has more money now to buy more government employees? Is that the kind of sh*t point your trying to make?
I have no idea what your talking about, I want less Government, if we move to the 'fair tax' then we can fire all IRS workers because thye will no longer be needed, that would save America billions right there in tax revenue.

How about tax the rich higher means offset the lower tax rate to the middle class.

This is why TJ is such a moron, he cheers on the people who keeps him subservient. Then accuses the opposition of sh*t like socialism?
No, you Progressives want class warfare, you envy the rich and want to punish them for having more than you have. The problem is while you Progressives are punishing the rich you at the same time discourage that same rich guy from investing and creating new jobs. Why invest his money if most of the profit must go to the Government?

Subservient?

That is what you want Phreakwars, but you just want us to be subservient to an all powerful Federal Government.

I do not want that. I want the freedom to succeed or fail on my own power, I don't need or want an all powerful Government to take care of me. Any help the Government could provide would have twise the negative reaction to someone else. When you take from one person to give to another you don't get a 100% result because the monster that is created must also support itself. So to give me $1, the monster must take $2, $1 for me, and $1 for itself. So to help me with $1, someone else had $2 stolen from them, and the only real winner is the monster who never existed before, but now gobbles up money without remorse.
 
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So answer the question, it's a pretty god damn simple one.. How do tax rates distributed higher to the rich create more government? And where are those jobs all these rich people were supposed to invest in ya ****ing clown? Over ****ing seas... yeah, lets keep cutting them a break, they'll do better this time, they promise. And last.. Lets say they paid ZERO taxes, and could hire all kinds of employees... where is the demand for the product they are selling coming from, thin air? You ain't gonna sell sh*t and it's pretty stupid to hire more people to make a product that isn't selling.

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So answer the question, it's a pretty god damn simple one..
Why should I answer your question when you dodge all of mine?

I am still waiting on you to tell me why giving Unions a pass on the new taxes on health insurance was good for all American and should have been included in Obama's huge healthcare reform?

Oh, I know why I should answer the questions from you, I am not a chickensh!t who can only respond to questions that have an issued answer from your progressive websites that do your thinking for you, lol.

How do tax rates distributed higher to the rich create more government?
They create big programs to go with their big taxes like the healthcare law that everyone now is admitting will need much more money than predicted, one independent review says it will cost three trillion over ten years.

The answer to everything for a progressive is to raise taxes, higher taxes mean bigger Government, lower taxes mean the Governmenr has to scale back, smaller Government because they have less tax money to waste.

And where are those jobs all these rich people were supposed to invest in ya ****ing clown? Over ****ing seas... yeah, lets keep cutting them a break, they'll do better this time, they promise. And last.. Lets say they paid ZERO taxes, and could hire all kinds of employees... where is the demand for the product they are selling coming from, thin air? You ain't gonna sell sh*t and it's pretty stupid to hire more people to make a product that isn't selling.
And where are all those jobs from the Government getting their revenue from?

Thin air?

The "rich" are not the Government's personal piggy bank to rob, the only way the Federal Government gets a dime from them is if they invest in American jobs, now how do you get them to invest if you are at the same time treating them like the enemey? Most of the jobs that have gone overseas was because of progressive policies that drove the companies away from America. Severe regulations and giving Unions free reign to plunder the companies forced them to find friendlier places.
 
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And you know what.. f*** EM. If they wanna leave and not pay their fair share,, then throw the ****ers out. It only makes room for new products from new up and coming business who DO play fair.

I guess you LIKE stagnant wages like we've gotten all through the Republican years.

Nobody gets ahead anywhere that way because nobody is making enough money to actually HAVE to invest in their own business. It all goes to the wealthy who stash it away or take jobs over seas because they want cheap labor. I'm supposed to feel SORRY for these ****wits who move jobs overseas? Oh the big mean government cut into their billions upon billions of profit.. oh the suffering!!

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I am still waiting on you to tell me why giving Unions a pass on the new taxes on health insurance was good for all American and should have been included in Obama's huge healthcare reform?
Now how the f*** am I supposed to answer that? It was a ****ing tax break, I said it a hundred ****ing times, you seem to have a problem calling it what it is. What's the problem with a tax break?Hey, the rich get their own type of breaks already, why can't the unions?

****ing cry baby

"OH MY GOD, A UNION OF PEOPLE ARE STANDING UP FOR BETTER WAGES...OH MY GOD, IT'S THE END OF THE WORLD!!!"

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And you know what.. f*** EM. If they wanna leave and not pay their fair share,, then throw the ****ers out. It only makes room for new products from new up and coming business who DO play fair.
Then they will be "rich" too right? And just as evil and deserving of having most of their profit either skimmed off by Unions or the Government......right?

I guess you LIKE stagnant wages like we've gotten all through the Republican years.
Considering the alternative seems to be "no wages" yes.

Obama will go down as the guy who killed the most private sector jobs in history, and it was only possible with a progressive controlled Congress. You proud about that Phreakwars?

Nobody gets ahead anywhere that way because nobody is making enough money to actually HAVE to invest in their own business. It all goes to the wealthy who stash it away or take jobs over seas because they want cheap labor. I'm supposed to feel SORRY for these ****wits who move jobs overseas? Oh the big mean government cut into their billions upon billions of profit.. oh the suffering!
And there you go, class warfare, you are jealous of those with more than you, in your mind there is no way they could have earned what they have so you feel justified in stealiing it from them. Free markets are the only way the poor can get ahead, look around America, even our poor have 60" plasma televisions and cellphones with mp3 players build in. Look around the world and show me a Country where the poor is better off than America and does not have free enterprise of any kind.

Now how the f*** am I supposed to answer that? It was a ****ing tax break, I said it a hundred ****ing times, you seem to have a problem calling it what it is. What's the problem with a tax break?

Hey, the rich get their own type of breaks already, why can't the unions?

****ing cry baby

"OH MY GOD, A UNION OF PEOPLE ARE STANDING UP FOR BETTER WAGES...OH MY GOD, IT'S THE END OF THE WORLD!!!"

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Still you dodge the question, I know it is a tax break, I am asking you "WHY" giving Unions a big tax break was a good thing for "all Americans".

Why Phreakwars? Why did your progressive President make that deal? Why was it important to protect Unions over everyone else in America?
 
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And you know what.. f*** EM. If they wanna leave and not pay their fair share,, then throw the ****ers out. It only makes room for new products from new up and coming business who DO play fair.
I agree.

oh wait, we're not talking about most of Obama's cabinet, are we?

;)
 

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And you know what.. f*** EM. If they wanna leave and not pay their fair share,, then throw the ****ers out. It only makes room for new products from new up and coming business who DO play fair.
I agree.

oh wait, we're not talking about most of Obama's cabinet, are we?

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Ask Maryland how well that worked out for them.

We reported in May that after passing a millionaire surtax nearly one-third of Maryland's millionaires had gone missing, thus contributing to a decline in state revenues. The politicians in Annapolis had said they'd collect $106 million by raising its income tax rate on millionaire households to 6.25% from 4.75%. In cities like Baltimore and Bethesda, which apply add-on income taxes, the top tax rate with the surcharge now reaches as high as 9.3%?fifth highest in the nation. Liberals said this was based on incomplete data and that rich Marylanders hadn't fled the state. Well, the state comptroller's office now has the final tax return data for 2008, the first year that the higher tax rates applied. The number of millionaire tax returns fell sharply to 5,529 from 7,898 in 2007, a 30% tumble. The taxes paid by rich filers fell by 22%, and instead of their payments increasing by $106 million, they fell by some $257 million.
http://online.wsj.co...EditorialPage_h

If you make the environment hostile to business in your state or in the US, business goes elsewhere and still sells the same products here, just another country gets the tax revenue.
 
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I am asking you "WHY" giving Unions a big tax break was a good thing for "all Americans".
Nobody ever said it was good for "ALL" Americans. Want in on it? Join a ****ing union and quit bitching..

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If you make the environment hostile to business in your state or in the US, business goes elsewhere and still sells the same products here, just another country gets the tax revenue.
Exactly, this is the point I have been trying to get Phreakwars to understand but he seems extremely resistent to this concept.

I would have thought the recent news with even ebay moving away from California to Utah would have been clear enough for anyone to understand that raising taxes over and over and over will eventually result in the departure of those your raising the taxes on.

I am asking you "WHY" giving Unions a big tax break was a good thing for "all Americans".
Nobody ever said it was good for "ALL" Americans. Want in on it? Join a ****ing union and quit bitching.
But wait a second, this was a massive piece of legislation that was sold to the American people as a measure to provide medical care/insurance to those Wmericans less able to have access to medical care, and to help "bend the cost curve down" for medical care.

Apart from the fact that costs are already proven to be going up instead of down as promised, why did Obama and the rest of the progressives feel the need to give massive tax breaks to severely over paid Union members at the cost of not having as much money to help the "POOR" Phreakwars?

I am asking why this gift to Unions was needed to be inserted in this bill. Can you answer that question honestly?

Why are 99% of Americans subject to this new massive tax but Union members completely protected from it? What was on the minds of Progressives who let this little gem for big Unions get inserted?

Is Obama and the rest of the Progressives simply selling little gifts like this for future campaign donations and help? Are the Democrats giving away American tax dollars to trade them for donation dollars?
 
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Works for me. Right wing SCOTUS judges already gave corporations the go ahead to buy elections, might as well bribe some unions.

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Works for me. Right wing SCOTUS judges already gave corporations the go ahead to buy elections, might as well bribe some unions.

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So the Progressives are just as corrupt, they just sell themselves to the Unions and eliminate jobs while the Republicans support new jobs and don't try to punish success the way democrats and Unions do.

Obama sold out America, nothing in his healthcare package will help a single poor person but at the same time, Obama used tax funds to buy support from Unions. Progressive policies always end up hurting more people than they help.
 
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