wez Posted September 1, 2008 Posted September 1, 2008 http://justbs.us/applications/core/interface/imageproxy/imageproxy.php?img=http://www.president-bush.com/iraqi-freedom.jpg&key=5df8bb2fc7a591a2cde8ddbeb5c7134d93ae5bafd565eb0d7e008aad578d26f5http://justbs.us/applications/core/interface/imageproxy/imageproxy.php?img=http://www.president-bush.com/mission-accomplished.jpg&key=074a6283b0f40bf7ebfc24e8750495dc8e60b5fb7093f8d622b7a53802aa010c http://justbs.us/applications/core/interface/imageproxy/imageproxy.php?img=http://www.president-bush.com/rule-of-law.jpg&key=f42945fc17f82e1211dd55195b96caace15a9af3d7255c1a66713a8bcf71ac08 http://justbs.us/applications/core/interface/imageproxy/imageproxy.php?img=http://www.president-bush.com/bush-saddam.jpg&key=1922908bc7d9de30d5299df5c5d0f036ca18bdc8db8c2477e706ee854512a50e Quote I'm sick in mind and spirit, the mirror tells me lies ~ Ozzy
wez Posted September 1, 2008 Author Posted September 1, 2008 http://justbs.us/applications/core/interface/imageproxy/imageproxy.php?img=http://www.president-bush.com/torture.jpg&key=1ffa156da60bc35fb036c3df666760286757c15d2bfb7b9d9fab7a5dc4ca682fhttp://justbs.us/applications/core/interface/imageproxy/imageproxy.php?img=http://www.president-bush.com/saddam-bush.jpg&key=8b415f7e2e85cc4771f580af8fd679b234d1c02058258e8c6ebf96dca385ae1f http://justbs.us/applications/core/interface/imageproxy/imageproxy.php?img=http://www.president-bush.com/victims.jpg&key=f3f17ecdd3230d8d49b04fb4a6366f52cf74961b03bbcacde6110a79e9f02541 http://justbs.us/applications/core/interface/imageproxy/imageproxy.php?img=http://www.president-bush.com/war-crimes.jpg&key=50efc5bf3425c43c8837fa85d1cc7b06a0976d75cac8585d8f44f6d9a46fd3a3 Quote I'm sick in mind and spirit, the mirror tells me lies ~ Ozzy
wez Posted September 1, 2008 Author Posted September 1, 2008 http://justbs.us/applications/core/interface/imageproxy/imageproxy.php?img=http://www.president-bush.com/americas-shame.jpg&key=9c8aa5d064de844c0a29ff03170a373a133e271b64ab69773c3e367e9d923df5http://justbs.us/applications/core/interface/imageproxy/imageproxy.php?img=http://www.president-bush.com/prisonlife.jpg&key=42ea13f9d59380c2f113bbd1b0e0926de693827f2dc3344def594a27e0354d90 http://justbs.us/applications/core/interface/imageproxy/imageproxy.php?img=http://www.president-bush.com/thebuckstops.jpg&key=7225962db3644f9b731400a6561ae67be0d3162687b8777bcc4a1882ed244821 http://justbs.us/applications/core/interface/imageproxy/imageproxy.php?img=http://www.president-bush.com/bestial.jpg&key=f0dfda13ac63a55b84f90b0c8799aa9706eea14b20758cc90d7bdfea83ae9aca Quote I'm sick in mind and spirit, the mirror tells me lies ~ Ozzy
wez Posted September 1, 2008 Author Posted September 1, 2008 http://justbs.us/applications/core/interface/imageproxy/imageproxy.php?img=http://www.president-bush.com/murdered.jpg&key=4ee51509b584c0ffc636a3fd483b5f38d0f9814b019ae5f651704d8fcfb1a7f7http://justbs.us/applications/core/interface/imageproxy/imageproxy.php?img=http://www.president-bush.com/gloating.jpg&key=b518718e76e0cd9b6fd58cf804c28fd97d30d35b8c12307acdde95d6b538768c http://justbs.us/applications/core/interface/imageproxy/imageproxy.php?img=http://www.president-bush.com/atrocity.jpg&key=f4d775e64a07b2698a529d2f2d1689b80830346b664128b536603202979bbc98 Quote I'm sick in mind and spirit, the mirror tells me lies ~ Ozzy
wez Posted September 1, 2008 Author Posted September 1, 2008 I guess the only difference I can see is McCain was a POW in a foreign land his country illegally invaded.. These heroes are in their homeland as POW's from a foreign army illegally invading their own country. Quote I'm sick in mind and spirit, the mirror tells me lies ~ Ozzy
snafu Posted September 1, 2008 Posted September 1, 2008 I don't get it? What's this got to do with McCain? Other than his torture was a lot worse than naked pyramids. Yes I’m sure the Taliban consider those inmates as heroes. McCain was asked about Gitmo and he said the first thing we need to is make sure this (old old old) story of humiliation dose not happen again. He also said we have to prove to the world that this is done. He said there was no excuse for such actions. Yeap McCain a hero once again for humanity. Good point wez Quote *NEVER FORGOTTEN*
hugo Posted September 2, 2008 Posted September 2, 2008 Who cares? They are a bunch of nutcases. Quote I don't make jokes. I just watch the government and report the facts. ? Will Rogers
Moderators IWS Posted September 2, 2008 Moderators Posted September 2, 2008 It's obvious that this was the obscure attempt to take a swipe at McCain, made by someone who was grossly uninformed on McCain's stance on torture. Nothing more, nothing less. Quote One of the consequences of such notions as "entitlements" is that people who have contributed nothing to society feel that society owes them something, apparently just for being nice enough to grace us with their presence.? ~ Thomas Sowell
Old Salt Posted September 2, 2008 Posted September 2, 2008 It's sad that we can't have a political debate without demonizing the opposing candidate (whichever side you're on). Whatever happened to debating the issues in a civilized manner? Quote Been wrong before, could be wrong now, will probably be wrong again. Don't take yourself so dang seriously. ;)
Moderators IWS Posted September 2, 2008 Moderators Posted September 2, 2008 It's sad that we can't have a political debate without demonizing the opposing candidate (whichever side you're on). Whatever happened to debating the issues in a civilized manner? I give complete and whole hearted respect to Barack Obama for his reaction to the story on Bristol Pelin being pregnant. It was honerable and of the utmost class. . . . Quote One of the consequences of such notions as "entitlements" is that people who have contributed nothing to society feel that society owes them something, apparently just for being nice enough to grace us with their presence.? ~ Thomas Sowell
Old Salt Posted September 2, 2008 Posted September 2, 2008 I give complete and whole hearted respect to Barack Obama for his reaction to the story on Bristol Pelin being pregnant. It was honerable and of the utmost class.. . . The candidates, themselves, stay civil. It's those hangers-on on the web that seem to take the most pleasure in tearing down the "other guy". Quote Been wrong before, could be wrong now, will probably be wrong again. Don't take yourself so dang seriously. ;)
Moderators IWS Posted September 2, 2008 Moderators Posted September 2, 2008 The candidates, themselves, stay civil. It's those hangers-on on the web that seem to take the most pleasure in tearing down the "other guy". I agree that the Presidential nominees stay civil but here's the funny part of the GOP strategy, that I haven't heard on any news show yet. Obama picked Biden to be his attack dog, so he can look "squeeky clean" come election day, with Biden being the mouth piece. I think Biden will have some trouble attacking Pelin. Quote One of the consequences of such notions as "entitlements" is that people who have contributed nothing to society feel that society owes them something, apparently just for being nice enough to grace us with their presence.? ~ Thomas Sowell
wez Posted September 2, 2008 Author Posted September 2, 2008 This wasn't intended to be a obama/McCain debate.. but rather a point on hypocrisy and double standards. Not intended to tear down McCain.. but rather give the same respect to those sharing his experiences as heroes. I'm surprised .. you mean McCain didn't publicly come out in favor of torture? :rolleyes: I guess we could debate why McCain is a hero for spending 5 years as a POW, and these men aren't.. or vice versa... if ya want. Quote I'm sick in mind and spirit, the mirror tells me lies ~ Ozzy
snafu Posted September 2, 2008 Posted September 2, 2008 This wasn't intended to be a obama/McCain debate.. but rather a point on hypocrisy and double standards. Not intended to tear down McCain.. but rather give the same respect to those sharing his experiences as heroes.I'm surprised .. you mean McCain didn't publicly come out in favor of torture? :rolleyes: I guess we could debate why McCain is a hero for spending 5 years as a POW, and these men aren't.. or vice versa... if ya want. I'm sorry. I didn't get the jest of your thread. It's an anti-war thread. And I respect that. Someone has to remind us that there has to be an end to this ASAP. And you also illustrated the point of oppressive behavior we demonstrated. But you forgot that in war usually there are no rules. The free nations are the closet ones to respect human rights. The Viet con where notorious for mutilations and torture rather than keeping our captured alive. Look at how the POW’s were treated on both sides in WWII. The Japanese were hurriedness to the POW’s. The Germans weren’t much better. The Japanese and Germans had it pretty darn good compared to our boys. Quote *NEVER FORGOTTEN*
wez Posted September 2, 2008 Author Posted September 2, 2008 No takers on that debate? I'll advocate for the naked guys in the hoods.. ;) Quote I'm sick in mind and spirit, the mirror tells me lies ~ Ozzy
Moderators IWS Posted September 2, 2008 Moderators Posted September 2, 2008 No takers on that debate? I'll advocate for the naked guys in the hoods.. ;) I'm sure that the naked guys in hoods are heroes to someone. What's the point?:confused: Quote One of the consequences of such notions as "entitlements" is that people who have contributed nothing to society feel that society owes them something, apparently just for being nice enough to grace us with their presence.? ~ Thomas Sowell
wez Posted September 3, 2008 Author Posted September 3, 2008 I'm sure that the naked guys in hoods are heroes to someone. What's the point?:confused: And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me. Mathew 25:40 Whatever is ok for you to do to another human being, is ok for every other human being to do to you. ~ wez Why aren't McCain and the guys in hoods heroes to you? Quote I'm sick in mind and spirit, the mirror tells me lies ~ Ozzy
snafu Posted September 3, 2008 Posted September 3, 2008 And the King shall answer and say unto them' date=' Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me. Mathew 25:40[/i']Whatever is ok for you to do to another human being, is ok for every other human being to do to you. ~ wez Why aren't McCain and the guys in hoods heroes to you? Well the guys in the hoods are combatants that I appose. McCain on the other hand was sent into arms way by his government and spent 5 years in a prison. I don't appose my governments decision in either war. Quote *NEVER FORGOTTEN*
snafu Posted September 3, 2008 Posted September 3, 2008 BUT those guys are being treated cruelly. As soon as we pulled out their fingernails and got the information we needed, they should have been treated with the utmost respect. Quote *NEVER FORGOTTEN*
Moderators IWS Posted September 3, 2008 Moderators Posted September 3, 2008 Why aren't McCain and the guys in hoods heroes to you? What makes you assume they aren't? I said no such thing. Quote One of the consequences of such notions as "entitlements" is that people who have contributed nothing to society feel that society owes them something, apparently just for being nice enough to grace us with their presence.? ~ Thomas Sowell
wez Posted September 3, 2008 Author Posted September 3, 2008 What makes you assume they aren't? I said no such thing. I'm sure that the naked guys in hoods are heroes to someone. Someone else, or you? Or just McCain? Quote I'm sick in mind and spirit, the mirror tells me lies ~ Ozzy
Moderators IWS Posted September 3, 2008 Moderators Posted September 3, 2008 Someone else, or you? Or just McCain? My question to you is, what would make you think the guys in the hoods are heroes, if you do? Quote One of the consequences of such notions as "entitlements" is that people who have contributed nothing to society feel that society owes them something, apparently just for being nice enough to grace us with their presence.? ~ Thomas Sowell
wez Posted September 3, 2008 Author Posted September 3, 2008 My question to you is, what would make you think the guys in the hoods are heroes, if you do? My country says a candidate for pres is a hero for being the guys in hoods.. What say you? Quote I'm sick in mind and spirit, the mirror tells me lies ~ Ozzy
Moderators IWS Posted September 3, 2008 Moderators Posted September 3, 2008 My country says a candidate for pres is a hero for being the guys in hoods.. What say you? That's not what is the only reason McCain is considered a hero, but nice sidestep to my question. Quote One of the consequences of such notions as "entitlements" is that people who have contributed nothing to society feel that society owes them something, apparently just for being nice enough to grace us with their presence.? ~ Thomas Sowell
snafu Posted September 3, 2008 Posted September 3, 2008 My country says a candidate for pres is a hero for being the guys in hoods.. What say you? Yeah your guys are looking for a candidate that lives in the hood. Quote *NEVER FORGOTTEN*
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