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[emkay64]

Ohhhhh...okay *snickers*. Careful now TJ..that big ol' balloon head of yours could have you floating away to far away lands.

 

[Times]

Ohhhhh...okay *snickers*. Careful now TJ..that big ol' balloon head of yours could have you floating away to far away lands.

Hey, I am not the guy so stuck on himself I have to strike out at their account to try and get even for being exposed for what he truly is.

I just plod along at my own immeasurable pace and feel joy at loving the guy I see in the mirror and sharing love with people I respect and know are more than my equals. There is a certain balance in the world and once you find you're own balance; there really is little anyone can do to upset you. I was knocked off that balance a couple times in my life, but I worked harder to get that balance back and to make it even stronger and you may be a tad surprised, but none of my balance requires the approval of people on the internet.

 

[emkay64]

Oh Lord it's hard to be humble....when "your" perfect in every way.....

 

[Times]

I can't wait to look in the mirror 'cause I get better lookin' each day

To know me is to love me, I must be a hell of a man

Oh Lord it's hard to be humble, but I'm doin' the best that I can

 

[Phreakwars]

Ohhhh...so "your" too smart to make others think you are smart by actually using correct grammar and spelling. "Your" an enigma there TJ...you really are.

Said it a couple times, I'll say it again.. He's simply too stupid to realize he's stupid..

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[wez]

Ohhhh...so "your" too smart to make others think you are smart by actually using correct grammar and spelling. "Your" an enigma there TJ...you really are.

Said it a couple times, I'll say it again.. He's simply too stupid to realize he's stupid..

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I have a sneaking suspicion this is why TJ places so much pride and emphasis on the ability to physically beat/whip/scare/intimidate/coerce/manipulate others into being "right" at all times in the "real world".

Sounds about right.. fits like a glove..

Might = right ain't just some cliche.. it's a way of life for the truly moronic..

 

[Phreakwars]

We as Christians have a very well defined system of charity spelled out to us in the Bible. It tells us there are three priorities for us to follow in how to help the needy. The first way is through the family, the second is with the church, and the third is "individual charity". This can be found in Deuteronomy-14:28, 29 and Numbers-18:24 and Matthew 6:1-4 as well as 1 Timothy 5:3-16.

Deuteronomy-14:28, 29

"At the end of every third year you shall bring out all the tithes of your produce for that year and deposit them in community stores, that the Levite who has no share in the heritage with you, and also the alien, the orphan and the widow who belong to your community, may come and eat their fill; so that the LORD, your God, may bless you in all that you undertake.

SocialistsNumbers-18:24

for I have assigned to them as their heritage the tithes which the Israelites give as a contribution to the LORD. That is why I have ordered that they are not to have any heritage among the Israelites."

Let's put that in context:

Only the Levites are to perform the service of the meeting tent, and they alone shall be held responsible; this is a perpetual ordinance for all your generations. The Levites, therefore, shall not have any heritage among the Israelites, for I have assigned to them as their heritage the tithes which the Israelites give as a contribution to the LORD. That is why I have ordered that they are not to have any heritage among the Israelites."The LORD said to Moses, "Give the Levites these instructions: When you receive from the Israelites the tithes I have assigned you from them as your heritage, you are to make a contribution from them to the LORD, a tithe of the tithes; and your contribution will be credited to you as if it were grain from the threshing floor or new wine from the press. Thus you too shall make a contribution from all the tithes you receive from the Israelites, handing over to Aaron the priest the part to be contributed to the LORD.

From all the gifts that you receive, and from the best parts, you are to consecrate to the LORD your own full contribution. "Tell them also: Once you have made your contribution from the best part, the rest of the tithes will be credited to you Levites as if it were produce of the threshing floor or of the winepress. Your families, as well as you, may eat them anywhere, since they are your recompense for service at the meeting tent. You will incur no guilt so long as you make a contribution of the best part. Do not profane the sacred gifts of the Israelites and so bring death on yourselves

Matthew 6:1-4

"(But) take care not to perform righteous deeds in order that people may see them; otherwise, you will have no recompense from your heavenly Father. When you give alms, do not blow a trumpet before you, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and in the streets to win the praise of others. Amen, I say to you, they have received their reward. But when you give alms, do not let your left hand know what your right is doing, so that your almsgiving may be secret. And your Father who sees in secret will repay you.

Footnotes from the vatican: http://www.vatican.va/archive/ENG0839/__PVF.HTM

1 [1-18] The sermon continues with a warning against doing good in order to be seen and gives three examples, almsgiving (? Matthew 6:2-4), prayer (? Matthew 6:5-15), and fasting (? Matthew 6:16-18). In each, the conduct of the hypocrites (? Matthew 6:2) is contrasted with that demanded of the disciples. The sayings about reward found here and elsewhere (? Matthew 5:12, ? 46; ? 10:41-42) show that this is a genuine element of Christian moral exhortation. Possibly to underline the difference between the Christian idea of reward and that of the hypocrites, the evangelist uses two different Greek verbs to express the rewarding of the disciples and that of the hypocrites; in the latter case it is the verb apecho, a commercial term for giving a receipt for what has been paid in full (? Matthew 6:2, 5, ? 16).

2 [2] The hypocrites: the scribes and Pharisees, see ? Matthew 23:13, ? 15, ? 23, ? 25, ? 27, ? 29. The designation reflects an attitude resulting not only from the controversies at the time of Jesus' ministry but from the opposition between Pharisaic Judaism and the church of Matthew. They have received their reward: they desire praise and have received what they were looking for.

1 Timothy 5:3-16

Honor widows who are truly widows. But if a widow has children or grandchildren, let these first learn to perform their religious duty to their own family and to make recompense to their parents, for this is pleasing to God. The real widow, who is all alone, has set her hope on God and continues in supplications and prayers night and day. But the one who is self-indulgent is dead while she lives. Command this, so that they may be irreproachable. And whoever does not provide for relatives and especially family members has denied the faith and is worse than an unbeliever. Let a widow be enrolled if she is not less than sixty years old, married only once, with a reputation for good works, namely, that she has raised children, practiced hospitality, washed the feet of the holy ones, helped those in distress, involved herself in every good work. But exclude younger widows, for when their sensuality estranges them from Christ, they want to marry and will incur condemnation for breaking their first pledge. And furthermore, they learn to be idlers, going about from house to house, and not only idlers but gossips and busybodies as well, talking about things that ought not to be mentioned. So I would like younger widows to marry, have children, and manage a home, so as to give the adversary no pretext for maligning us. For some have already turned away to follow Satan. If any woman believer has widowed relatives, she must assist them; the church is not to be burdened, so that it will be able to help those who are truly widows.

Footnotes from the vatican: http://www.vatican.v...0839/__P113.HTM

After a few words of general advice based on common sense (? 1 Tim 5:1-2), the letter takes up, in its several aspects, the subject of widows. The first responsibility for their care belongs to the family circle, not to the Christian community as such (? 1 Tim 5:3-4, ? 16). The widow left without the aid of relatives may benefit the community by her prayer, and the community should consider her material sustenance its responsibility (? 1 Tim 5:5-8). Widows who wish to work directly for the Christian community should not be accepted unless they are well beyond the probability of marriage, i.e., sixty years of age, married only once, and with a reputation for good works (? 1 Tim 5:9-10). Younger widows are apt to be troublesome and should be encouraged to remarry

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[Times]

This is why you are NOT a Christian no matter how much you want to proclaim to be. Your corporate owned brain does not follow Christian principles and that's why Christians in general make me sick.

So you ready to admit you were wrong being as I just proved I follow the Bible in my desire to help people who need help?

I really am surprised you would try to atack my faith just because I don't want an "all powerful" Government playing Robin Hood. Taking from the "rich" to give tot he poor and wasting $.80 on the dollar in buracracy does not look like charity to me. If someone needs help they need to look to their family, church, friends, and community. A good person will get that help they need while a bad or lazy person will not.

Civil liberty is the status of the man who is guaranteed by law and civil institutions the exclusive employment of all his own powers for his own welfare. ~ William Graham Sumner

 

[Phreakwars]

So you ready to admit you were wrong being as I just proved I follow the Bible in my desire to help people who need help?

So answer for Deuteronomy-14:28, 29At the end of every third year you shall bring out all the tithes of your produce for that year and deposit them in community stores,

Do YOU do that? Hey, it's the phrase YOU mentioned.

I really am surprised you would try to atack my faith just because I don't want an "all powerful" Government playing Robin Hood. Taking from the "rich" to give tot he poor

So what has been taken from the rich and given to the poor? Where is all this socialist wealth spreading? I want some too..

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[Times]

At the end of every third year you shall bring out all the tithes of your produce for that year and deposit them in community stores,

Do YOU do that? Hey, it's the phrase YOU mentioned.

Ever hear of a food bank Phreakwars? You know, those community depositories of food that is run, stocked, and managed by Churches? How about soup kitchens? Christian community centers?

Don't forget that "every third year" part too Phreakwars, most Churches run their charity work for the population year round, not once every three years, and they cartainly help a lot more than just the members of their Churches.

Oh, and notice how there is no mention of a "all powerful" Government to give our money to, that is an important point. The money is to stay in the hands of Christians, not given away to Progressives who will waste almost all of it with buracracy and provide very little in the way of help.

So what has been taken from the rich and given to the poor? Where is all this socialist wealth spreading? I want some too.

Welfare is taking away from those who earn it and giving it away to those who do not earn it.

So you ready to say you are sorry for claiming I was not a Christian just because I reject the Ptogressive idea that we must have an "all powerful" Government fix our lives for us?

Our lives are our own to fix, we do not need the Federal Government to fix us.

 

[Phreakwars]

First of all, read the passage again, it says ALL of your sh*t, not just a couple can of beans to the food bank.. tell me it DOESN'T say that.

At the end of every third year you shall bring out all the tithes of your produce for that year and deposit them in community stores,

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Welfare is taking away from those who earn it and giving it away to those who do not earn it.

Republicans created welfare. Not Obama, the question was:So what has been taken from the rich and given to the poor? Where is all this socialist wealth spreading? I want some too.

That was a reference to the current administration, not what has been going on for decades..

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[Times]

First of all, read the passage again, it says ALL of your sh*t, not just a couple can of beans to the food bank.. tell me it DOESN'T say that.

At the end of every third year you shall bring out all the tithes of your produce for that year and deposit them in community stores,

Again, ever hear of food banks? Those are the community stores, please try to pay attention.

And it says "all" as it pertains to the tithes, by spreading the full tithes of one year used in an every three year cycle, less people are helped when they need that help. I can only speak of the Churches I have been involved with but way more than 1/3 of the tithe we collect goes directly to the needy.

You also see that under these rules only certain people are authorized to get help from these community stores. This was intended to help only those who have no other way of getting help, not as a community lazy house to sit around and get free food just because you are too lazy to work.

Republicans created welfare. Not Obama, the question was:

The Progressives jumped parties, Republicans are now the Conservatives Democrats used to be.

So what has been taken from the rich and given to the poor? Where is all this socialist wealth spreading? I want some too.

That was a reference to the current administration, not what has been going on for decades..

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Well it is English, if you intended the question to only be about the current administration you could have said that.

Answer, the new healthcare law is giving away free medical insurance to millions of new people, this is estimated to cost the American taxpayer over three trillion dollars in the next ten years.

Sounds like new socialist wealth spreading to me.

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And I am still waiting on you to admit you were wrong to attack my faith just because I do not agree with the Progressive desire to replace Religion devoted to God with religion devoted to Big Government.

If you Progressive wackos are so interested in the separation of church and state, why do you have such a hard-on to take over a church driven agenda of taking care of the poor?

I say let the Government take care of the Government, and let people take care of people.

 

[Phreakwars]

Admit I'm wrong about your faith? Hell you won't even acknowledge the bible tells you to be a socialist. Just one of those passage you want to interpret for your own selfish needs regardless of what it really says.

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[Times]

Admit I'm wrong about your faith? Hell you won't even acknowledge the bible tells you to be a socialist. Just one of those passage you want to interpret for your own selfish needs regardless of what it really says.

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I would not call a voluntary following of a religious belief system socialist.

One of the most defining elements of socialist beliefs is that an "all powerful" Government must take what I earn by force and give what was taken to someone else after they first use up most of what they took in buracracy.

I agree that the Bible tells us to help the poor, but at the same time it also sets out rules for that help and is very strict not to give help to those who have the ability to help themselves or get help from places like their family "FIRST". The Bible also does not say it should be you Progressives and your massive Government entitity that should administer this help.

I am following Christian teachings and then some Phreakwars, but you attacked my faith only because I would not agree that an "all powerful" Government is reasonable and needed to "fix" American's lives. You Progressives want to give "free money" to people even if they can work but only refuse to work out of being lazy.

 

[Phreakwars]

Who said anything about the government getting involved?

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[Times]

Who said anything about the government getting involved?

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You did, you say it all the time.

As one example you say the Government should provide free healthcare to everyone in America. You Progressives all suport the notion that we need "Big Government" to "fix" our lives.

 

[eddo]

So Phreakwars, Government = God?

I think that is a big part of the issue here. Some folks want Government to be God, because us poor peons can't ever decide for ourselves what is right and what is wrong.

I agree that we should take care of those less fortunate. I do not agree with anyone but God telling me that I have to.

 

[Times]

So Phreakwars, Government = God?

I think that is a big part of the issue here. Some folks want Government to be God, because us poor peons can't ever decide for ourselves what is right and what is wrong.

I agree that we should take care of those less fortunate. I do not agree with anyone but God telling me that I have to.

Yes, that is exactly what he is saying.

Phreakwars is saying that because it is in the Bible that people should tithe, that it is reasonable for an "all powerful" Government to step in and take over that job. When I resist his idea to have an "all powerful" Government do these things, he attacks my faith and says I am not a Christian if I don't want his Government "god" to take the place of my God.

Progressives want to take God's place in the world.